UKTerrorist
Posted by eks` at 12:17, 15/3/2005
It seems to me that the UK CS scene is on the UP.
I'm at university so have been completely inactive from CS recently, but I still follow the progress made on the relevant websites, and sometimes IRC. Basically I enjoy the competition, and spectating a game I used to play a lot for about four years.
So, from a somewhat outsiders POV, here are a few reasons why I think things are improving:
I feel the top clans are proving themselves more:
- CTX have become a very good clan by UK standards, and the first that will properly challenge lc in CSGN for quite some time. There are also others that have endured and could prove a challenge: Forsaken and Choke, perhaps Caution.
- Lastchance and Caution have both recently had good games against Ocrana. When I check the SK website, I see that Ocrana are demolishing the top German teams. Drake are by no means breezing the CSGN premiership, and I expect them to lose to both ctx and lc.
- 4K seemed to have finally picked their form up, and have already done enough for me at WEG as long as they don’t get wiped by NoA. Pity Harriman had to leave, GL Snajdan.
- Sometime ago the Team-UK boys did the ‘impossible’ and beat the Swedes. I feel this is a great improvement on what would have happened about a year ago.
CSGN has been improved dramatically:
- We are now seeing much more competition and activity in CSGN with the removal of the ‘we are gay card’. With the amount of results coming in each week the league can start to be respected once more.
- Once again I feel the respectability of the clans, especially in the premiership and division one, has risen. This is due to higher skill levels and the fact they have been around for sometime. Instead of clans that will fold in two weeks we have clans like Unicon, Played, Ants, Thk, Lanimals, Carbine, in there place that were not competing in this way before. Even when I look down the leagues I see talent and ‘newer’ people making a name for themselves – Calypso, Naughty, Turtlesports, there are more. I feel this just makes the scene deeper and healthier.
- The introduction of the new anti-cheat seems to be working well and is crucial to the development of the league.
Attitudes and websites:
- Maybe it’s just me, but UKT seems to be less about flaming these days and more about enjoying the game and the up and coming clans.
- UKCT has developed into a widely used website that provides excellent coverage from the likes of Realfire and Geo, and of course the old schoolers such as pie. It doesn’t just report on clans that will fold in two weeks these days. The demo thing is a great idea to.
- There seems to be less clans just forming and folding. Clans seem to be sticking around longer at the moment.
Perhaps I don’t know what I’m talking about, I have been inactive for quite some time. It just seems as if things are on the up. Keep it up ;)
Comments
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
12:55 15/3/2005
13:08 15/3/2005
13:21 15/3/2005
LOL [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
13:27 15/3/2005
Choke
13:39 15/3/2005
Speaking on behalf of choke, we are definitely finding a lot less animosity between teams, something that’s always played a big part in UK CS. Friends have been made in teams like caution, landed and played to name but a few. There’s a feeling of mutual respect among the top10/20 UK teams on the whole, which was never there before.
CSGN is leading the way in online competition, due to the effort the likes of Obsidian is putting into the league in regard to team selection and his anti cheat work. Great work CSGN.
There are still a few teams out there who insist on remaining poor sports with even poorer attitudes, mentioning no names. However these seem easier to handle now in light of the improvement with so many other teams.
I still say we are missing a “UKT” style LAN series which I feel did so much for the scene back in the day, but aside from that, I does appear quite positive for once.
Long may it continue?
Ps: eks you blatantly used ms word mate, that’s far to perfect grammatically and spelling wise to be free text ;o) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
13:45 15/3/2005
The UK/IE cup seems to have gone downhill from past times, Kirt seems to be a bit of a wildcard when it comes to admins, the games we have arranged with other teams have some how been forced to play on a different day and there doesnt seem to be any reason for this. there has been word of there being HLTV TsN scorebot etc and none of this has been done by CB. so i think the people over @ CB need to up their game to provide the coverage that they are saying they have.
other than that gl and hf everyone! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
13:48 15/3/2005
(2003 version is an absolute dog, must be said)
It's been good to see a more chilled atmosphere about the scene. How long it lasts, is anyone's guess... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
14:08 15/3/2005
BLACKLiGHT
14:17 15/3/2005
Only thing i would say, is we so HAD LC last night!!!! :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
14:28 15/3/2005
14:31 15/3/2005
14:33 15/3/2005
Aye stono did nothing when it comes to the anti cheat lmfao. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
unicon.cs
14:36 15/3/2005
twisted Reality
14:40 15/3/2005
Agree with what Katori said that a lot of the 2nd tier teams have more of a friendly rivalry going now. Still think there is a huge gap between the lower/mid div1 teams and the top div1/prem teams in CSGN that will take some time to close.
One thing to note though is to whether these will change over to a lan format, not whether teams are capable but will they actually attend or not. Choke, CAu, synergy, SCEE havent attend lans in quite some time, mainly because most of them seem to play for pure enjoyment rather than competition and have commitments elsewhere that keep them from lanning. Other teams like uC and ForsakeN have kept to their "home" lans nearby. Will be interesting to see something like ESWC quals and as to how many UK teams make the effort to attend. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
14:46 15/3/2005
14:49 15/3/2005
good call! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
14:51 15/3/2005
Choke
14:56 15/3/2005
So just for you, to make sure you don't flid out on us or go postal, here's a well done for you too.
WELL DONE STONO! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Choke
15:02 15/3/2005
15:04 15/3/2005
Shame 4k and perhaps PCG (if they still exist) don't compete in UK leagues. I think the games would be a lot closer than they'd like them to be. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
15:08 15/3/2005
the reason obs does all the front end stuff and talks to clans is because he is a nice person and im not :( [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
15:09 15/3/2005
15:31 15/3/2005
As regards to 4kings not playing on-line. Its quite clearly a circular arguement. If they played online more, it would have been less of an "event" and as such wilzo might not have cheated. However, because they dont play online so much he felt the need to do so, which has in turn probablay put them off playing online ever again :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
15:34 15/3/2005
handedly = handedly
baught = brought
thank or/care/whatever = thank him/care/whatever
yes. :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
twisted Reality
15:38 15/3/2005
Choke
15:42 15/3/2005
BLACKLiGHT
15:46 15/3/2005
two of us are from manc (scum), 2 from 'Down South' where the hell is that?? and me and edd are in the middle cos we are cool [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
15:50 15/3/2005
i read that as "what that dick seik said" :( [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
15:54 15/3/2005
euthanasia
16:17 15/3/2005
Also, Stono should take credit for CSGN's revival, not so much Obsidian [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
16:23 15/3/2005
but yay, nice to see someone positive for once, but you know how everyone likes to whinge.
and gj postin a column when noones done one for weeks! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
16:32 15/3/2005
Ffin 'eck! :o
Whatever next?! :o
:) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
16:44 15/3/2005
16:48 15/3/2005
classified
16:50 15/3/2005
However looking at the uk scene now. Not much was expected of 4k in Korea/China, no one thought team-uk would make the final of the nations cup and no one thought that other clans apart from 4k and TAG could compete nationally.
With the pressure off its allowed many clans to grow and therefore improve, whilst gaining a reputation for being good ane because the level is so close between these clans everything has stabalised. Hopefully these clans will continue to improve and compete at higher levels. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
17:21 15/3/2005
17:53 15/3/2005
I've always read UKT, sometimes on a daily basis, but never before had the motivation to actually sign up and add my own little comment, that is, until i read this column.
Finally, a positive attitude towards to the Uk scene :D There has definatly been considerable improvement over the past couple of months, it seems to be getting better every week :)
Great column :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ForsakeN
17:56 15/3/2005
Speaking on behalf of choke, we are definitely finding a lot less animosity between teams, something that’s always played a big part in UK CS. Friends have been made in teams like caution, landed and played to name but a few. There’s a feeling of mutual respect among the top10/20 UK teams on the whole, which was never there before.
CSGN is leading the way in online competition, due to the effort the likes of Obsidian is putting into the league in regard to team selection and his anti cheat work. Great work CSGN.
There are still a few teams out there who insist on remaining poor sports with even poorer attitudes, mentioning no names. However these seem easier to handle now in light of the improvement with so many other teams.
I still say we are missing a “UKT” style LAN series which I feel did so much for the scene back in the day, but aside from that, I does appear quite positive for once.
Long may it continue? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Stalk Confront Engage Eliminate
17:57 15/3/2005
I no longer care! Players clans can do whatever they wish. I very rarely play now and we're just seeing out the current season as SCEE never have and never will just leave a league mid-season and fold. Waiting for an appropriate time.
You may have noticed less comments on here from me and less appearances on IRC, you may have not :D
The games lost its magic for me, the community no longer inspires or irritates me. Time to bow out? Nah just time to fvck off!
Enjoy! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
18:07 15/3/2005
The Anti-DoZ
18:41 15/3/2005
Clan ONE
18:56 15/3/2005
Choke
19:35 15/3/2005
Croydon
19:54 15/3/2005
20:26 15/3/2005
00:28 16/3/2005
or
you disagree with the good s*** ive done with the anti cheat therefore making you one of the pro gaming ill do everything i can to get around somthing intending to make this game clearer folk.
which is it :o [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
08:21 16/3/2005
08:49 16/3/2005
Yeh DK not seen much of ya...everything is all nice atm which is good...but not the most entertaining when ur bored in work...even stono aint taking the bait which is taking the biscuit =[ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
14:16 16/3/2005
lunch time. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
14:39 16/3/2005
14:43 16/3/2005
meatyballs
17:02 16/3/2005
01:50 17/3/2005
08:54 17/3/2005
must have took an awefull long time and much delegation to come to that conclusion.
Do you care to be more precise what do you disagree about? That clans are improving? That CSGN is improving?
Or is it attitudes of people improving? i must say your not a shining star example of that last point but on general i do agree with all 3. unfortunatly tho we will allways have the bad seeds such as yourself wont we.
And considering you disagree, why dont you do anything about it instead of sitting on your arse attempting to be cool on UKT? People like me and jamie have spent nearlly 3 years of our own time dedicated to improving UK/CS for absolutly no gain (infact a cost) of our own.
<<awaits your witty, well thought out reply which will surly include some sort of medicore insult>> [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
10:05 17/3/2005
Rush!
08:41 18/3/2005
Last Refusal
02:25 20/3/2005
4k^Realf1re for the win?
Decent site tho to be fair. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]