
Posted by Myers at 19:22, 29/7/2005
Alltherage eh?
I have to admit, when I first heard about Alltherage, I was quite happy. Surprised, are the actions of ACON 5 UK quals forgotten/forgiven so quickly? but happy. For the first time in almost a year we have a team that might be able to compete at an international level, and more importantly, a team that 4K will take seriously. Sure I like(d) the other decent UK sides around, CSGN and Landed were both nice guys and talented CS players. Yet as proven by ACON 5, and the solid pastings handed to them by 4K at every encounter, they are unlikely to ever compete at the international level.
One of the biggest explanations for the declining interest in UK CS recently is the realisation of this. With the exception of the two players, in what now must be referred to as an international team, there’s no-one to support. We deny it, but at international events we want players to follow and support. These players represent the finest of us, if we cannot get a team of 5 UK players at a top level that reflects poorly upon the whole community. It’s as much about pride as it is about interest. Even at UK events, we want to see the top players playing at their best, shouting tactics at each other, not silently slouched in their seats, drinking cans of coke during rounds and free-for-all’ing their tactics.
UK Counter-Strike is not blessed with a lack of sponsors, in fact, in comparison with the majority of countries we have been somewhat blessed with willing sponsors. Neither are we cursed with a lack of LAN competitions for players to prove themselves. In the past 3 years we have held as many ESWC/WCG/CPL qualifiers as Germany, Sweden and France. Throw in the Bloodlines’, the EOGC’s, the BYOC’s and the assortment of lesser internet centre events and we are in quite a healthy LAN climate.
Yet sponsorship developed far quicker than the players’ abilities. Many top players lost the enthusiasm to play and were replaced by less experienced/talented players who did not make up the skill ground fast enough. It is the same situation for clans too. I hope neither Landed nor LastChance deny that they went from top 5 or top 10 UK sides to top 3, not because they conquered those above them, but as a result of those teams folding. Such is the extent to which the scene self-imploded within the past two years that several top-sponsored multi-gaming organisations are actually founded/managed by UK staff, fnatic, begrip and Dignitas being three examples.
When Stu Harriman departed 4K to later be replaced by elemeNt it was a double-edged sword really. Yes one of 4K’s longest serving UK members had left the team and was replaced by another Scandinavian, which is obviously a bad thing for the community. Yet the flip side reveals that 4K has now reached the status where they can attract players with the status of elemeNt to their team. Debate that however you like.
So what can we expect of Alltherage? First and foremost is sponsorship. The TAG/4K contingent of their line-up are used to not paying for travel, accommodation nor entrance at LAN events. Primarily on their agenda will be gaining a budget that can, at the very least, send them to all upcoming UK qualifiers for larger events. Although at present the forthcoming UK CS events in 05 are limited to: CPL UK early September and WCG UK a month or so later.
Once sponsorship is in the bag, they need to practice, and practice hard. Not just to avoid a repeat of the c4u/TAG i19 disaster, but to really know that beating 4K is within their grasp. Three of their players have beaten 4K in the past; if this line-up can find the motivation and avoid the distractions plighting other teams then there’s no reason why another 4K upset isn’t on the cards. This is most crucial to the success of the team, not to settle for what they have right now, the recognition as the 2nd best side in the UK. They must push, and push harder for first. Settling leads to a lack of motivation which then leads to the general deconstruction of the team.
Another crucial factor to the success of the team is to stick to their line-up they have. Avoid the temptation to recruit from overseas. Obviously this is a benefit from a UK perspective, yet events that handicap 4K, such as WCG are going to be crucial for their media presence. The media, especially print-media, are far more familiar with WCG than with CPL/ESWC etc, so it is important they avoid the temptation to bring in Mangiacapra and Akujii to replace two of their members for the event. With WEG preparing for its 3rd season that might not be an option anyway. It is crucial to the team that they brand Alltherage victories over every upcoming LAN event. From the minor GGL’s to the £1000 Gameon’s, they need the experience of competing at LANs together and the confidence of winning them.
When reflecting upon the history of UK CS, I consider this to be a 5th generation. The first generation being the days of KMA, UKLA, 4K, -CSA- and SLDR battling it out for the UK’s top spot. The second generation being the fierce Nocturne and 4K rivalry with CSC7/Ui lurking in their shadows. The 3rd generation to be the era of infinity-eSports –vs- ClanONE with OMG! behind them. And the 4th generation being 2004 with 4K/TAG/i-eS/c4u.
Generally these generations span the cycle of a year and roughly increment with the year. By comparison, 2005 was a bore. By this time in 2004 we had seen a great TAG –vs- Infinity-eSports battle at UKT 6, a 4K upset by WOLF at ESWC UK and some great UK games between 4K/NoA and TAG/SK.swe. So if 2005 is going to give us anything other than controversy to remember, it will be because of Alltherage, and what adrenaline they can inject into what can otherwise be best defined as the UK’s hibernation year.
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19:29 29/7/2005
Anti-saviour of UKT
19:41 29/7/2005
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19:53 29/7/2005
Clan ONE
19:54 29/7/2005
fightclubclan
19:54 29/7/2005
Clan ONE
19:55 29/7/2005
20:04 29/7/2005
fightclubclan
20:16 29/7/2005
20:16 29/7/2005
Anti-saviour of UKT
20:37 29/7/2005
20:51 29/7/2005
Anti-saviour of UKT
20:56 29/7/2005
Croydon
20:58 29/7/2005
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00:38 30/7/2005
You could perhaps earn as much as a University f***ing Janitor as you could pro-gaming if you lived in the uk atm. I think anyone who aims to do 'go pro' within the uk has been smoking way, way, WAY too much crack and needs a spell in their local rehab unit.
play CS as it is meant to be played, with a few REAL mates (you know, the kind you see at least once a week, if you aint following, PLEASE SELL YOUR f***ING COMPUTER) and have fun regardless of the end score. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
code of eXecution
00:50 30/7/2005
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theb0g
02:22 30/7/2005
Croydon
03:32 30/7/2005
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09:45 30/7/2005
BLACKLiGHT
12:30 30/7/2005
When csgn first started up and there was a UKT ranking.
Half the decent teams folded/left and in my opinion there is a massive gap where they used to be.
I used to be able to think of like a top20 or maybe 30 clans in UK, teams like cs-marines etc who could beat each other on the day, now i can barely name 10 ;o
I think people started losing interest after that last ukt lan.
Myers you know what u have to do! :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Anti-saviour of UKT
13:05 30/7/2005
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13:42 30/7/2005
We need to go back in time and try simple things. Which is the problem, a lack of variety and imagination – it’s all the same or too overly complicated. If, just ‘if’ this gaming community can shake things up, then I’m sure interest might catch on again. Which is why I welcome ‘CO rule’ competitions! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
15:33 30/7/2005
Croydon
16:28 30/7/2005
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MAKE SURE YOU READ THIS NIXOH [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
deliverance
16:34 30/7/2005
17:07 30/7/2005
euthanasia
17:47 30/7/2005
Online Multiplayer Gaming
18:03 30/7/2005
give me my xbox [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
20:38 30/7/2005
21:06 30/7/2005
cs is dead. at least dead compared to what it used to be. now all it resembles is a raped and ravaged heroin addict skinned out through lack of sustenance.
to be honest, its had MORE than its fair life span. Its kind of like watching a very, very good film, you could probably watch it loads and loads of times, still appreciate it but at the end of the day, your not going to see anything new. SoooOO when a new film comes out, youll place it in your collection, and watch the new film. All we need now is a new film, then we would be sorted :D
Tru - perhaps you meant 'first paragraph' instead of 'first statement' - since my initial post was my 'whole statement' not just a tiny snippet. The 'pro' gaming circuit is huge in other countries, sure, but in the uk, its non existant. I cant see that changing either. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
22:07 30/7/2005
00:06 31/7/2005
that is a statement, your stating that there 'aint no such thing as professional gaming' [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
00:11 31/7/2005
Read the rest of the post, and use your loaf to distinguish what ever other person has that has an ounce of intelligence. No pro gaming in the uk.
Maybe i should write it out for you, so that you can understand it.
aint no such thing as professional gaming in the uk.
ok?
want it again?
aint no such thing as professional gaming in the uk.
One more time, just for you tru.
aint no such thing as professional gaming in the uk. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
02:13 31/7/2005
"aint no such thing as professional gaming"
That sunshine, is a statement and that was what I was referring to.
Got your dummy here to if you want it. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
theb0g
11:23 31/7/2005
Days of honour that have died a long and lonely death. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Anti-saviour of UKT
11:59 31/7/2005
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12:18 31/7/2005
If the UK players don't want to play, who cares :> The better of them will do someone oversea's, and the rest will quit :).
The current 'wave' of pro players have left the scene, but the players who are replacing them are probally better than the old pro players, they just have harder competition (albeit less).
Start respecting the lesser teams' results at LANs. The teams who DO try hard, get slated to the ground, and fold. Give the new wave of players a chance :>. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
13:17 31/7/2005
I figured he realised that, hence why he's doing a degree course at university. Besides whatever incentive he gets to work at events like EOGC, etc it's a nice bit of work experience to put on the curriculum vitae. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
13:29 31/7/2005
feo
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13:55 31/7/2005
No it aint. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
14:34 31/7/2005
UK WCG 02 - 03 & EOGC 2004
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"At each of these large events (usually hosted within a video games trade exhibition) I assumed the position of Head-Admin/Tournament Director ensuring the smooth execution of the competition. My responsibilities involved everything related to operations, from writing the rules and format of each event to directing, motivating and co-ordinating the efforts of over 40 volunteers. This work placed me under a lot of pressure as a variety of problems were constantly arising which needed a speedy, yet mutually satisfactory, resolution."
^^ sounds alright on a cv doesn't it ? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
twisted Reality
15:07 31/7/2005
The Anti-DoZ
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15:45 31/7/2005
500k @ korea to me, is professional. As in they could dedicate their lifetime to being the best in the nation/world and get enough money to be able to retire at a fairly young age, and have enough cash to live on till they start to talk to the sofa and have blended meat fed to them by an 18 yr old care worker. play testing games at bare min wage aint pro gaming. Its working in the gaming industry. but its all relative and i respect all opinions. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
17:40 31/7/2005
Why isn't it? It's relevant to his degree and exceeds most of the tripe graduates put on their CV like summer employment or GCSE work experience. The more you know. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
18:17 31/7/2005
especially if he wants to get into event management or a field similar. It could even be used to get into a managers role in any field in which he has experience - managing a team of 40 is hard work. Ive managed a team of 20 and balancing their hours, overtime, breaks/lunches that sort of thing is real hard work. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
18:18 31/7/2005
also note the word "upto". [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
19:44 31/7/2005
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
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Croydon
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Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
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00:13 1/8/2005
CSA + KMA were always the best, but I think you forgot about dOh because they were better than UKLA/SLDR/4K back then. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
01:55 1/8/2005
02:34 1/8/2005
Jay Bee Eye!
09:23 1/8/2005
I started on 25k, don't knock it ;) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
09:27 1/8/2005
only reason the teams folded that had suspected cheaters in were most likely because the person actually cheated.
the only thing stopping UK CS is the lack of practice teams put in, and the lack of effort in general towards cs, they are too busy bickering whos the BESTEST or who CHEATS the most.. instead of getting on with what we all doing, playing cs. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
09:30 1/8/2005
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euthanasia
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13:08 1/8/2005
It's the great old debate, isn't it? Has UK CS died? Is it close to dying? Or will life be rekindled, etc, etc.
It seems like 4K have carried the flag for so long now. It probably all stems from them taking the first successful plunge into the pro-gaming world. A few others have tried to follow them, but it's just never seemed to work.
I wonder if you could apply a football-related theory to UK CS...
Perhaps if 4K or ATR actually won an international tourney soon, it might encourage a load of 'glory-hunters' to get into the game (be it 1.6 or Sauce). Then, perhaps, the new blood would eventually end up becoming the next generation (and perhaps a more successful one...?).
I've seen so many kids wearing Chelsea shirts this summer and I guarantee a tiny minority are actually from London. All they seem to do is play football and dream of being the next Lampard/Cole/Robben/Terry, etc.
It'd therefore be quite nice to see a few new faces, desperate to follow in the footsteps of Liquid/akujii and the other UK fellas. Who knows, we might then get back to the days of 1.3 & before, when there seemed to so many more skilled/dedicated UK teams...
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I hope ATR get a decent sponsorship package - it'd give them the boost they need to succeed. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ImaGine
13:18 1/8/2005
Massive sponsorship plus attenting the biggest event but no tactics on the map!!
Always wondered about that one. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
14:02 1/8/2005
Viva La Resistance
16:07 1/8/2005
ImaGine
16:11 1/8/2005
Online Multiplayer Gaming
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