Opencup Update

Posted by Ripper at 10:02 22/10/2002.

After ONE's superb run of form in division 1 of the Opencup, the division 2 clans played the bulk of their week 1 matches last night, with mixed fortunes. Here are the UK clans results:I'd assume that erm won by default over loloMM, EndGame and Weakest Link's results are yet to be displayed so I'll update the post as soon as I recieve them.

omg! had a successful night, slaughtering aXx after initial server disagreements. The server arguments between guru and 6K were even worse, which lead to 6K having to play both maps on a foreign server, but luckily enough they still managed to take a hard fought victory. Disturbed were unlucky, look for them to bounce back next game. SW must be a clan to watch out for after their annihilation of uninspired. Overall it wasn't the most successful of weeks for the clans involved, lets hope in picks up next week.

For full standings click here.

Comments

Smittins
10:05 22/10/2002
ui :X

and im glad 6k won, wot is it with fckin euro w**kers thinking they have the god given right to play on their servers all the time?? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
10:07 22/10/2002
We had no server disputes ;-) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ripper
Rush!
10:09 22/10/2002
Don't pcw with guru.

After finding a choosehosting UK server with wwcl, we gave them the ip and they complained about their pings, then said they couldn't connect to it. Once they got on the server to test it at one point they were freezing in spawn, the next minute they were running around like there wasn't any lag problems at all. I think they were messing with their rates to make their pings look high.

After another 30 minutes of their refusing to play on our server, they demanded we played both maps on their mTw server, where we also lagged. Obviously this was extremely unfair so we then give them an ultimatum, either both maps on an NL srever, or one map on our UK and one map on their german server. They chose one map on each, then after getting to the server they changed their minds AGAIN and said they wanted to play both maps on the NL srever. The match started at almost 9pm (an hour after originally intended) and 6K won the first map 14-10, only for guru then to say they're playing the 2nd half on their German lag fest of a server, then they left the server. Back in IRC we complained, obviously, since they'd already changed their minds before, we were then told if we didn't hurry up we'd have to default. So, being extremely annoyed and p***ed off 6K went to the german server, and managed to take the match 26-22.

In fairness it was a f***ing joke and it makes you wonder why they even bother writing rules if they're not gonna stick to them [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ripper
Rush!
10:12 22/10/2002
we had wasted 5 minutes at the end of the first map complaining, and got threatened with the default. Thye wasted a f***ing hour before the match started and nothing was said. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Luke
10:22 22/10/2002
Yea, thats right miss induce out ! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ripper
Rush!
10:24 22/10/2002
their not listed on the tables, they use a different name? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ripper
Rush!
10:24 22/10/2002
nm got it [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Luke
10:27 22/10/2002
Waaayhaaaay, thats better :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Messiah
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
10:59 22/10/2002
hehe "annihilation", those guys should win CPL the way they play [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Geordie
Last Chance
11:22 22/10/2002
Those results read pretty poorly :/ lets hope we have a better next round [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
w1cked^
11:26 22/10/2002
"EndGame and Weakest Link's results are yet to be displayed so I'll update the post as soon as I recieve them."

Yeh EndGame are playing at 7pm vs some german team, hope they dont give us as much trouble as you guys :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
11:52 22/10/2002
[23:14] * Now talking in #weakest
[23:14] * Topic is '| Open Cup Result wL.cs 22 - 26 Scintex :: Support <removed because it's not who we voted> for Team-UK |' [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
omg! craig
Online Multiplayer Gaming
11:57 22/10/2002
the clan we pld agreed on using our server the hr b4 the match they then decided they were not using it, but they didnt have a server of there own. So we pld 1st map on ours, we had about a 20ping advantage, beat them quite comfortably on inferno.
They then managed to get a server that they insisted we pld on, it was a german server but we were pinging about the same to it as them, altho it was a bit laggy, this server didnt have wwcl on it, made the game a bit more amusing tbh :o these german clans seem to think they have the right to dictate to us, tellin us what server they want to use and what settings, as far as im concerned they can fo, gg tho :x [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
[ONE]-BL
11:58 22/10/2002
go craig go craig! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Geordie
Last Chance
12:02 22/10/2002
omg!
saying dictate and germans
in the same sentance
ooh er :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Cannon
12:03 22/10/2002
Luke's tk was amazing tho :]
Ul all the ppl who lost
wp all the ppl who won [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Keefe
12:06 22/10/2002
loloMM looked rather elite on paper, lucky for us they couldnt get a team together :)) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
12:06 22/10/2002
ul wL, guess our pcw with u never helped in the end, close result tho guys :x [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Keefe
12:06 22/10/2002
although we would rather have played, since that is the whole point =/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
12:07 22/10/2002
and craig it only german clans, teams like illuSion in CBUk ladder seem to think clans are obliged to play on their .nl server when its a uk ladder... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
omg! craig
Online Multiplayer Gaming
12:10 22/10/2002
:o

dutch germans, same thing really aint it :)

i think the guys need to think back to the past, 1st the dutch would actually be germans if it werent for us, and secondly the germans seem to forget how may times they have been owned in the past, where they get there arrogance from i dont know. Im looking forward to playing the other german clans in our group....but not a lot :/

/me waves union jack [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Cannon
12:14 22/10/2002
/me burns german flag, do i get in trouble for that? :] [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Luke
12:15 22/10/2002
Might aswell add to the server problems, we wanted to play one map there server one map ours. didnt happen because they refused we played on some clanbase server located in NL we had pings between 150-230 constant and in the 3rd quarter pings of 250-500 - not good [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Luke
12:18 22/10/2002
Germany 1 - England 5 what a day that was [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
St_George
g30rg3h
UKTerrorist
12:27 22/10/2002
i still dont quite understand the ethics of playing in another countries ladder.

I personally belive they just cant hack the dutch pace. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Dev
theb0g
12:43 22/10/2002
Agreed george, i dont see the point. its what the cups are for and the international ladder.

Oh and whoever it was who said that illusion in the cbuk ladder wanted there games on a .nl server you can refuse and demand it to be on a uk server as its a uk ladder as you said. Unless they have ammended the rules :|

Anyway back on topic. Not a very good week for uk clans.

Well done 6k and OMG! and very well done to Disturbed who lost by 4 rounds to one of the top german clans there is. Unlucky lads!

Dev [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Stu^
12:49 22/10/2002
thx mate, we were 3 rounds up as CT on cbble and only needed one more round to win, there was one of us and one of theirs left, and dave buckled under the pressure and missed him completely. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
12:53 22/10/2002
He's ginger, don't be racist ;-( [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Geordie
Last Chance
12:56 22/10/2002
recognition o//
was only be 2 rounds because its to 24 :P hehe stupid dave he could have ran away but stopped in the corner to take him on, u cant beat a german sprayer when will we ever learn! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
12:59 22/10/2002
I blame us losing inferno to the fact I told this lot to wake me up an hour before the game, but they only did 30mins before. So I started half asleep ;-) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Necroboy
13:16 22/10/2002
We have played illusion 4 times on cb, lost all 4. I think we played 3 of those on a dutch server. Cant remember why, but most likely because we didnt have our own server. They didnt seem to force us on thier server. Nice guys really.

fcc started cbble on thier server, they owned us. So as agreed we went on our server. No problems at all, but might have looked different if it had been clooser?

Just wondering, but why did 6k play on thier server if you had an agreement? and didnt you have an admin to decide this stuff? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Necroboy
13:18 22/10/2002
"fcc started cbble on thier server, they owned us. So as agreed we went on our server. No problems at all, but might have looked different if it had been clooser?"

Was talking about the opencup game :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ripper
Rush!
13:19 22/10/2002
we agreed, then they CHANGED THEIR MINDS at the end of the first map, admin took their side and forced us to go from the NL server to the German server [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ripper
Rush!
13:20 22/10/2002
its exactly how i explained earlier, we were screwed over, luckily we managed to beat them though. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Headshot^Man`
Disturbed
14:29 22/10/2002
n1 [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
fcc-|-JediBitch
14:42 22/10/2002
radium totally owned us :D

they were in another league tbh...
nice guys too,they had 150 ping to our server and didnt b***h once :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
phonics
14:54 22/10/2002
Ive noticed with pretty much every report ive read theres been a server despute when a uk teams involved, basically resulting with the foreign team demanding both maps are played on their server and a cb admin siding with them. They should just enforce a rule where you have to play a home and away leg and not playing on a server in that country results in a forfeit (maybe changin server to see which provides less lag but it still has to be in that country). [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Dev
theb0g
14:59 22/10/2002
Supprisingly reading the oc division 2 rules section the bit about agreeing a server is pretty thorough and detailed. Its a pitty that only a select few clans and admins bother to actually ammend by them 100%. Sometimes its possible but a lot of the time people stray from the rules of "before and after" and just focus on the rules of the game itself. Nothing is perfect and theres allways room for improvement!

Dev [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Messiah
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
15:22 22/10/2002
Heh SW pinged over a 100 on our server and aAa server in the pre-game discussion, but after the 1st map our server and aAa server pinged fine, funny that. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Weakest|GaZ
15:22 22/10/2002
we lost 22-26 to scintex the match was suppose to be played on r wwcl server they kept joining and getting other people to join server with really high pings so they wouldnt have to play on are server. it worked we agreed to play on are other server with no wwcl finally match started 1 hour 20 mins late some of the shots they were getting on cbble was balls*** it was so obvisous they were all cfging hacking we lost 10-2 as ct on cbble which cost us the match we fought back really well and at 1 point on inferno we were winning the match but we f***ed up.when they finally won 1 of there players said in chat WE OWNED YOU HAHAHAHA which really p***ed us off i dont think match has been confirmed yet becoz admin is looking to see if 1 of there players called meth has already played in opencup for es7 i hope the dicks lose and we get the default [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
gen1cs
15:31 22/10/2002
wp omg!

btw craig ur a dick :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
15:38 22/10/2002
i hope u win too gaz [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Geordie
Last Chance
15:38 22/10/2002
we have to play scintex as well, best make sure server is sorted at least a day before like we did with the oL, they best not try and be gay with us :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ripper
Rush!
15:47 22/10/2002
http://www.challenge-cs.com/comments.php3?pageid=1117&aid=29719

sigh. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Dev
theb0g
15:57 22/10/2002
lol ripper
that news post took a hell of a lot of research
:D

I can see your point though mate, people ripping news from you etc... Being one of the top sources of cs news its bound to happen, people will keep coming back here anyway if that site keeps ripping news because they will realise that people can just come to here and miss out the middle man or "website" in this case

:P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ripper
Rush!
16:01 22/10/2002
it did though, i never thought to look at the matches page so i had to click on about a thousand clan pages/league links to get to each clans result. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Geordie
Last Chance
16:07 22/10/2002
just looking on that site
http://www.challenge-cs.com/columns/jaden
great article:) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Weakest | GaZ
16:26 22/10/2002
Geordie no doubt about it scintex have got good skills they beat ocrana.de to qualify there a gather clan from austria so there all mercs some of them play for the top clans in austria just make sure u play them on a wwcl becoz i have no doubt they got 1 gb cfg's [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
16:30 22/10/2002
b0g.Austria then ;-) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Obi
Clan ONE
16:35 22/10/2002
Ripper we have had similar problems =/ we were forced to play both matches on a german server against risk, oh and the admin just happened to be german too, and then when we played spanish clan CTF, we agreed b4 the match 1 map on each server then after the first map on theirs they refused to play on ours, took 3hrs of arguing to get them to play, we had to get another admin to sort it out cos the admin we had was being a biased tart (the same german we had admin the risk game =/). I think all matches should be played 1 on each clans server its the only fair way to do it, cos foreign servers are just too damn s*** for us [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
sol
16:46 22/10/2002
nl servers are fine for uk ppl i think. everything farrer away is s*** for em :] [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Dev
theb0g
16:52 22/10/2002
Obi, i also think 1 map on each clans server is what should be done but then you would get arguments as to what map is played on what server as if u can cope ok on the forign one but then thrash them on a map you have practised thousands of times on your lag free server it does bring about contraversy.

I know what your saying but its never going to be perfect! There is allways someone to cause controversy. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Obi
Clan ONE
16:55 22/10/2002
well the admin could do a simple cointoss to decide that [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
shotti
theb0g
17:12 22/10/2002
ill have you know that is slander to the good b0g name doz :< [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
17:23 22/10/2002
Yeah, good innit? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smiffeh
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
17:28 22/10/2002
before our match we agree'd to play first half on theirs and then second half on ours. Whilst playing on their server we couldnt hit s*** due to 0 reg at all and some SERIOUSLY dodgy shots and play from them. Cbble ends and we ive them the ip to our server, now they refuse to play on our server even though we agreed before hand to play on ours second half. We were then forced to play on a "neutral" dutch server which we pinged once again the same and only just better reg. Once they got their rounds the admin just left saying good game.

Hopefully we wont have to play on german servers every match. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
17:30 22/10/2002
I reg better on every German server I've played than any UK one ;-/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smiffeh
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
17:30 22/10/2002
not this one :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Divvur
17:32 22/10/2002
All admins are evil... simple as. Cept me and Ripper of course :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
omg! craig
Online Multiplayer Gaming
17:43 22/10/2002
hehe hi gen, got that case for you btw :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smiffeh
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
17:47 22/10/2002
craig is SoL! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
omg! craig
Online Multiplayer Gaming
18:00 22/10/2002
smiffeh is SoL!! hes the one whos got your case btw gen :| [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smiffeh
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
18:50 22/10/2002
The light on my case doesn't f***ing work [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Divvur
19:13 22/10/2002
Pfft, editing my post! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
P!@Z^
19:37 22/10/2002
We had server bulls*** aswell :(

When we got started we were so friggin nervous was unbelievable. We did'nt kick in till we lost ct on cbble 2-10 :(

Scintex config hax too f*** but are very good.

We played very well considering the quality of our opponents and I am very pleased with the result (even though we shoulda won). Was a very good experience playing in a big game for such a small and new team. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
nazg0l
20:39 22/10/2002
ul GaZ and the other wL guys... i think from now on all u uk clans should be ruthless in adhearing to rules, just get in ur server, and give em the "forfeit-talk" if the start moaning. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ripper
Rush!
21:34 22/10/2002
endgame experience the foreign server treatment [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
iron
21:37 22/10/2002
stupid german lamers, clanbase HAVE to change their rules. Before the game they agreed to paly on 1 half on each server, and then after the first map that wasnt gonna happen, come onto our server, first of all they had 70 pings then suddenly 200? So basically the admin said it was 'unfair' and we had to find another server or we had to use theirs..well guess what, as much as wed love to buy 20 different servers for use in foreign games we dont have that kind of money, so we were made to play on their server. on cbble they had 80 pings first half, then straight after they came back from their server, they had 200..it changed back down to normal after about 10 seconds...(rate changing). Added to all that the server was total dogs***, had to spray them like f*** to get any sort of registration. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
MadSpunk-
21:39 22/10/2002
Bring one home for the UK guys! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
EndGame|w1cked
21:39 22/10/2002
indeed :( [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
EndGame|w1cked
21:40 22/10/2002
what iron said.. ¬_¬ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
iron
21:43 22/10/2002
ill make a small avi of all the times my xhair was on their head/body and the amount of bullets they took to die if i cba [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Toomy
00:59 23/10/2002
shame SW aren't in the eurocup, they could cause some serious upsets up until the semi finals. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smiffeh
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
01:22 23/10/2002
same for 0_o [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Keefe
01:49 23/10/2002
or maybe you're not as good as you thought you were, just a thought. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
rm-rm-rm-
03:04 23/10/2002
make it interesting why don't you keefe o/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Rav0r
Croydon
06:23 23/10/2002
back to bed robin [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Geordie
Last Chance
08:07 23/10/2002
Keefe
01:49, 23/10/2002 or maybe you're not as good as you thought you were, just a thought.

LOL [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Geordie
Last Chance
08:54 23/10/2002
the f***ing c***s changed there rates just to ping higher on the UK server, f***in b******s [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Toomy
21:18 23/10/2002
that too [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
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