CSGN Divisons Drawn Up

Posted by deebo at 18:42 20/2/2003.

Looking at the CSGN website, there is an announcement about the league starting. Snippet:
After a disappointing Cup campaign, CSGN is now proud to present its league placements for the CSGN BornBritish League (division based). After input from the admin team at CSGN, and numerous impartial outsiders, we have been able to create a realistic placement for the clans involved.

There will undoubtedly be changes over the course of next week. We are especially looking forward to see what the UK-Terrorist LAN brings in the way of head turning. The results of this event could have a profound impact on some individual clan placements.

The league will start after all preparation is completed, and the admin team has been briefed.

Here is Division 1:
  • cs-marines
  • omg!
  • lastchance
  • bullet
  • fightclubclan
  • hertz
  • Imminent
  • xstars
  • DarkSide
  • tR
There are 5 divisions, one of which is the Invite Premiership, which features the above clans. The other divisions are not to be sniffed at either, with quality sides such as barcodes, North & South, TRCC and Kensai to name but a few competing in division 1. I highly recommend you check out all the divisions here.

Comments

Ripper
Rush!
18:49 20/2/2003
Demo talked tR's way into the premier :o [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
deebo
Mel Gibson
UKTerrorist
18:50 20/2/2003
thats Team-UK | Demo to you ripper. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
18:50 20/2/2003
First we heard about it was a couple of minutes ago, we're not gonna be playing in it [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Grom^
18:51 20/2/2003
woo yeah div 3
pld :| [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
18:55 20/2/2003
hmm some dodgy div placements ;)

gl all [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Scara
North & South
18:55 20/2/2003
I take our rating as a personal insult :)

Is your dad daft too? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
b33p
18:59 20/2/2003
div 1, u feel dirty :o [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Demo
conneXion
19:01 20/2/2003
Why cant i log onto this site using my own pc :| [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Hedge
19:03 20/2/2003
cracking [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Obsidian
19:04 20/2/2003
i fear for the placements. I await the flames that come with a placement someone body doens't agree with :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
19:08 20/2/2003
xeq, eek, n&s, trcc, bcodes - all > Hz [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Obsidian
19:09 20/2/2003
so are disturbed - but you guys turned down your invite. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
19:13 20/2/2003
Those others are still there though [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Obsidian
19:14 20/2/2003
yes but you messed it all up :) if you'd have stayed in the premiership - it woud have all been fine. :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Psy^
xtreme9.uk
19:18 20/2/2003
true DoZ, but they have ubj the destroyer!! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
omg! craig
Online Multiplayer Gaming
19:25 20/2/2003
arent bullet inactive at the moment? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
19:26 20/2/2003
ye [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Lyo`
eSports.Edge
19:31 20/2/2003
lol there r sum f***ed up seedings in it.....

i dont no y ppl think such s*** clans r so gd but nm it will just be funny at the end of the season when thye have 0 pts [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
deebo
Mel Gibson
UKTerrorist
19:35 20/2/2003
i take it u and smittins are talkin about esport.edge's 2nd divison placement? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
19:39 20/2/2003
not really, but the position of others is funny :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Psy^
xtreme9.uk
19:43 20/2/2003
unbd are too low, even being seeded top of div4, we've beat quite a few of the div 3 teams and ones in other divisions, time will tell I guess. Ti in div 2 and we stabbed em up a good 13-2 last night in BWCSL. :/ Nevermind... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Obsidian
19:45 20/2/2003
mmm as i said - if, for example, came top of div 4 easily - you would perhaps make div1/2 depending. So no fear :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
NukeMasta
19:45 20/2/2003
arent u supposed to put the top 10 teams in division one then next 10 in division 2 and so on? gonna be a really s*** first season [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Obsidian
19:45 20/2/2003
well tahts what we tried to do... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Cr0n0s
19:46 20/2/2003
glad to be invited :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Slider`
eSports.Edge
19:47 20/2/2003
Looks like a good laugh - should be interesting :)
Game on [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
NukeMasta
19:47 20/2/2003
division 1 and premier mainly. tho a few premiership clans should be in div 2 :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
fez
19:47 20/2/2003
this was blatently gonna happen. just hope clans can see thru the first season then we will see who should be put where. with so many clans its hard to know where to put people. so just lay off a tad eh? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Psy^
xtreme9.uk
19:48 20/2/2003
As good as bullet are I don't believe they deserve #1 seeding in premier, especially as Marines only beat them 3/4 nights ago and omg! are easily the 3rd/2nd best in this country. :/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
NukeMasta
19:48 20/2/2003
and DkS are supposed to be spanish? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ZaG
Online Multiplayer Gaming
19:49 20/2/2003
pretty hard to pick 10 ten UK teams, top 5 or so are a given, after that, who knows ? :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ripper
Rush!
19:50 20/2/2003
their not seeded no1, it just lists the teams.... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
w1cked^
Kirby-eSports
19:51 20/2/2003
gl DkS! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
NukeMasta
19:52 20/2/2003
yeh zag but u could put the better known ones or the ones who compete in other top divisions in the premier. i mean like at least 3/4 div 1 clans play bwcsl division 1 whereas hz are top 10 in clanbase... difference? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Conscript
classified
19:54 20/2/2003
Ketamine in division 1?? We are in division 3 and beat em twice in a week. Maybe it was luck. Looks like a nice league.
gl everyone. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Psy^
xtreme9.uk
19:54 20/2/2003
Ahh, I thought they were seeded as I cannot spot any other reason why teams were listed in that order. :/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ZaG
Online Multiplayer Gaming
19:54 20/2/2003
true nuke :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
fez
19:56 20/2/2003
lol dont get too hot and het up about it, these are just the first drafts of the divisions. changes are obivously going to be made [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Obsidian
19:57 20/2/2003
Yeh clans are in order of complete randomness atm. i will be organising them alabetically the minute i make the league display page db driven. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Hedge
19:59 20/2/2003
cant wait [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
TJ`
20:06 20/2/2003
Ti in div 2 and we stabbed em up a good 13-2 last night in BWCSL. :/ Nevermind...

did u not notice we only had 4 players?

i guess that don't matter, well pld... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Psy^
xtreme9.uk
20:13 20/2/2003
Yes I know that, I'm not even saying we're better, I'm just saying that there shouldn't be such a large gap in between our placements. :| [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
deebo
Mel Gibson
UKTerrorist
20:27 20/2/2003
beating someone in one game doesnt make you better than them - or anywhere near as good.

EG. think of all the football cup upsets there has ever been. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
20:30 20/2/2003
How many victories does it take? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
deebo
Mel Gibson
UKTerrorist
20:32 20/2/2003
cant say i think of a as an exact science but one game isnt the way to judge a team? Disagree? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Obsidian
20:44 20/2/2003
everyone should have a 2nd chance :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Headshot^Man`
Disturbed
20:51 20/2/2003
im a fighter adrian, thats what you married... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
lk
21:10 20/2/2003
eating sprouts > relating cs to football [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Obsidian
21:20 20/2/2003
lalala [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Hyperion
22:11 20/2/2003
Division 4 :o im just happy to be in it unlike some people keep up the good work Obsidian. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
teamx
22:12 20/2/2003
lol those placings are awful

unbd/gltc/ants should be higher than that

we beat ketamine in bwcsl, yet they are in a higher division than us, and theres teams in the bottom division who would beat us quite easily id imagine

who decided them? ; [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Aaron
22:37 20/2/2003
a frikking retard [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
N38
22:42 20/2/2003
gl all, can't beleive tR, fcc, iM have been chosed over O:i, but thats just my opinion SO FLAME ME HARD. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Drenz
22:43 20/2/2003
Im sure you've all tried picking the best England XI, or the squad for the World Cup. People are NEVER going to agree, some people will have differing opinions and views, but its not as tho CSGN have many other leagues/competions to go by. I mean u've said it yourself, PCW's mean FO, give em a break, they dont have to put the time in, and if people dont like it then its one less team to worry about.

GJ CSGN team [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Obsidian
22:58 20/2/2003
at the end of the day, the 1st season will sort it all out. As N387 knoeingly says:

Dunt run b4 u can walk. And since this is CSGN 1st season, i dunt expect it to be a "perfect season". but i'll try my best.

All the devisions are proper tight really anyway. not much in div1 to div 2. Nor div 2 to div 3.

After 140 clans applying, it was tricky picking 58, and those who did then had to put them in order. Glad it wasn't just me :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Obsidian
22:59 20/2/2003
sigh at my typing. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Obsidian
23:00 20/2/2003
N38 i nearly left O:i completely, since you made it pretty clear what you thaught about CSGN in the last thread. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Atemi
ForsakeN
23:20 20/2/2003
humm cant really say good job on the placements, quite awful actually just looks like u picked names out of a hat for each div, but thats my opinion.
quite a few clans in this are in ECSL too and atm both leagues contradict each other as there are ppl in lower league than us in ECSL 2 leagues above us in CSGN.
played SO19 last night in CB open cup, quite a close match, we won one map they won another but yet they are a full 2 didivions higher than us in this. oh well everyone who is complaing just better make sure they win their div and prove CSGN wrong [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Cannon
ImaGine
23:28 20/2/2003
well there are lots and lots of good teams in it some im just glad my clan are in it.
Give em a break :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Psy^
xtreme9.uk
23:40 20/2/2003
beating someone in one game doesnt make you better than them - or anywhere near as good.

Even so we're good enough for higher divisions. :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Atemi
ForsakeN
23:49 20/2/2003
im also a bit peeved at our placement was influenced by a pcw with a certain CSGN admins clan, 8-1 up as T and they left blaiming the server for them losing so i knew we wouldnt be put in a higher div than his clan as that would mean him accepting we are better and i was right, we aint, instead in the same div. but league should be good once everyone gets over the misplacement issue [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Drenz
23:57 20/2/2003
problem is pcws mean fo :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
N38
00:03 21/2/2003
Well at the end of the day you knpw my "opinion", i'd like to play whatever happens as long as its got some organisation, as always your going to get some confrontations over who should be where any why..

Seeing as i made a good point on the previous comments page on CSGN there should be no hard feelings towards us as you did yourself ackowledge my point of view anyway... even if it did take some time to do so. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
N38
00:04 21/2/2003
But anyway i'd like to show everyone how O:i desevre a place in division 1 (next season?(if there is one)) by doing well in division 2, so no problem at the end of the day really :] [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Grom^
00:11 21/2/2003
good luck to the league, it's really up to the league masters how they run it tbh :)

we'll play all our games no matter what division we're in.

I just hope it doesnt end up like BWCSL where half the clans drop out of, for example, division 1 because either they can't be bothered or they think they're not doing well enough...

hope there are some good games.

fwiw, I thin unbd should definitely be in a higher division. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smiffeh
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
00:28 21/2/2003
Good Luck friends [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
-m0o.Rob-
00:30 21/2/2003
edge should be higher ;/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Rhyzz
Nocturne
00:36 21/2/2003
AHHHHHHHHH I FINALLY GET TO CRUSH DEMO IN A WAR

oh wait its not on LAN...call the celebrations off :| [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
TeppuM
Online Multiplayer Gaming
01:13 21/2/2003
What's this? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
JediBitch
fightclubclan
01:39 21/2/2003
thx for the invite Obsidian :) much appreciated [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
poog
Disturbed
05:01 21/2/2003
N38
22:42, 20/2/2003 gl all, can't beleive tR, fcc, iM have been chosed over O:i, but thats just my opinion SO FLAME ME HARD.
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ok...so numero uno ure saying O:i are better than these 3 clans, you base this opinion on what exactly?
and secondly, forgive me if im wrong, but ure saying that these clans are the worst 3 in the premiership? again you base this on what?
obviously i can only vouch for fcc here, but to my knowledge (going over my demo names) fcc have only played O:i once and as i recall we beat them quite heavily on prodigy (yes it was a pcw blablablabla). Now be as it may, ure lineup could and probably has changed but what proof do you have that O:i are infact better than just fcc nevermind all 3 of those clans.
o and unlucky in oc quals, close match against a top belgium team!! ¬_¬
but then again these are just my opinions SO FLAME ME HARD [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Rav0r
Croydon
09:12 21/2/2003
/me flames poogy [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Obsidian
09:16 21/2/2003
:) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
TeppuM
Online Multiplayer Gaming
09:21 21/2/2003
It's ok N38, you can have our place, we've requested a move to division 5. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Obsidian
09:30 21/2/2003
Since TeppuM wants to play with the n00bs, Blacklight have been promoted, after their recent high performace over the ECSL period. I also feel they will bring a certain aspect of reliablity that the prem. will benefit from.

Wp BlackLight.

There will still be some changes regarding both higher level and lower level devisions over this weekend. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
TeppuM
Online Multiplayer Gaming
09:52 21/2/2003
:) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
emfive
10:27 21/2/2003
TepPuM Is ThE BEsteSt

Lay it on me brother! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
N38
11:08 21/2/2003
poog just f***ing read what i said:

but thats just my opinion SO FLAME ME HARD.

The "FLAME ME HARD" bit was to prepare myself for an argument :P.. Well heres my argument:

Re read my last two comments. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
N38
11:11 21/2/2003
Oh and my old clan (not a patch on O:i) e2 beat FCC in the 1st round of the WCG LAN quals @ Earls Court, what was your team? Jedib***h, poog, SiN, ratty and someone else i forgot.. thats what i based my argument on :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
N38
11:12 21/2/2003
Blacklight have been promoted, after their recent high performace over the ECSL period. I also feel they will bring a certain aspect of reliablity that the prem. will benefit from.

Totally agree, BlackLight been around for ages, nice guys and not one of these clans who are just gonna die if they loose etc :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
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