Sabre - The Hacker

Posted by Ripper at 12:35 1/5/2003.

The reasonably well known UK clan team Letters, regulars at various LANs such as the i-series, have admitted after being grilled by many, that Sabre has been using a wallhack in some very important CB officials and PCW's. Here's a snippet of the statement from Stacey:

Well guys it all ends here for saber today. I watched back the avi recorded with a wh. I still could have answered whys and whens even though it looked dodgey. I asked alex to watch the demo and be honest with me. Because i and others have been showing doubt and all defending him to our upmost, he finally admitted to me he used a cheat program, wh im told.

The full statement appears in a comment on this thread. Before you head over, here's omg|geordie's professional verdict on affairs:

sorry to hear it stacey, i remember the i14 semi when we played u, had more fun meeting u and the tL guys, saber is a nice kid, shame its happened, but from my point of view your clan is still to be respected and should not ever be seen as anything other than that, you had your eyes covered to the truth, from a close trusted friend, but he admited it and its been dealt with swiftly, ur even going back and getting old results changed, very admirable, see ya at i17/i18 m8 :)
-geo

Demos and AVIs have been released, links can be found in the comments on Clanbase.

Comments

b33p
12:36 1/5/2003
He was very dodgey when tL beat us 20-4 on our home map of nuke which we just dont lose, and sabre "lost" his demo :o [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
12:37 1/5/2003
This reminds me of the time when Geo said his anus was my one and only *sniff* life's cruel [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
JediBitch
fightclubclan
12:37 1/5/2003
HAA i said he wallhacked AGES ago,but no1 believed me :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
fez
12:38 1/5/2003
knew it when we played u u f***ing c***. lol silence left my clan for tL coz we said sabre whed. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Kid
Clan ONE
12:42 1/5/2003
I remember when we needed a 5th player tom (KhAoS) spoke about this guy said he had alot of intelligence ingame, now we know where he got it from :] [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Scrappy
Sniper's Alley
12:43 1/5/2003
Bet u won't see Sabre at i17/i18 :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Stu^
12:47 1/5/2003
When we pld tl in CB we were gonna make an avi of saber walking, but never got round to it in the end. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
12:47 1/5/2003
I believed you Tarl ;)

glad he's been found out at last

shame for the rest of tL cos they're sound, but Saber's a c**k as well as a cheat [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ripper
Rush!
12:47 1/5/2003
an avi of anyone walking is bound to be entertaining stu [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Rude^
Jay Bee Eye!
12:47 1/5/2003
avi of someone walking might be pretty dull [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Rude^
Jay Bee Eye!
12:48 1/5/2003
bah robbed by ripper [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Dr_Evil``
12:49 1/5/2003
Dont know why he did it but its obvious that hes let a lot of people down. tL have handled it well, gl to them in the future. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Loxam
Lite
12:50 1/5/2003
I agree they have handled the situation well, although in this day, isn't it quite easy to spot a cheater in your own clan? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
duck.
Online Multiplayer Gaming
12:51 1/5/2003
He owned me =[ ul tL [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
St_George
g30rg3h
UKTerrorist
12:51 1/5/2003
shocking. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Atemi
ForsakeN
12:53 1/5/2003
tl constantly defended him while loads of people were saying the demos proved he was wallhacking, i even got a nice pm from one of tl giving me s*** saying he was dissapointed in me calling sum1 a cheat and that he thought better of me. stacey even said that he'd quit cs if saber was cheating (but he isnt going to now).
tl have only now opened their eyes cos saber himself admitted it, had he not of admitted it himself they probably still would of been contesting it and defending him. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
silva`
ForsakeN
12:54 1/5/2003
Nah ryu`

As stew knows in my old clan we had a hacker, didnt realise it straight off but u tend to suspect something after most clans u play complain about the SAME person :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Headshot^Man`
Disturbed
12:54 1/5/2003
Ripper
League Reporter
UKTerrorist
12:47, 1/5/2003 an avi of anyone walking is bound to be entertaining stu


hahahahahahhahahahahahhaha [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Stu^
12:55 1/5/2003
walking? NICE ONE [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ObZ^
12:55 1/5/2003
such a shame :/

whing in officials, just ruins every1s fun gg... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Geordie
Last Chance
12:57 1/5/2003
It actually only came to my attention an hour ago when i was remembering i14, and when we met the tL guys after beating them, and i looked at doz i think and said 'hm s*** arent these the guys we called cheaters in a pcw not long ago' and it clicked :/ shame really but he will be replaced im sure!
stacey is sound! >:) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Rude^
Jay Bee Eye!
12:57 1/5/2003
When we pld tl in CB we were gonna make an avi of saber walking, but never got round to it in the end.

good one? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Slider`
eSports.Edge
12:57 1/5/2003
o/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
duck.
Online Multiplayer Gaming
12:58 1/5/2003
Haha yeh geo, and we flamed them to s***. Shame they didn't remember :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Stu^
12:58 1/5/2003
Yes rude im aware i made a mistake now but thanks for pointing it out again anyway [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Scrappy
Sniper's Alley
13:00 1/5/2003
Me thinks Stu's not gonna live that down :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Geordie
Last Chance
13:02 1/5/2003
then fcc walked over and asked the tL guys if they spoke to 'disturbed' to which we replied, we ARE disturbed, then jedib***hs face dropped for a second.. then he smiled and acted all nice :)
I_am_jacks_config, remember that ? :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
13:02 1/5/2003
I remember that pcw. Was one of the few times I was outwardly abusive ingame ;-) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
dravicus
13:03 1/5/2003
agree tL is handling it well now but they took long enough to actually listen to the masses of neutral people who had watched these demos and decided fairly certainly that hes a cheater.
the fact hes banned twice for cheating on blueyonder servers was a decent indication too, the admins there generally do a good job with those sort of things :-/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
13:03 1/5/2003
The best person we met was Global Chillage lol [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Headshot^Man`
Disturbed
13:04 1/5/2003
tarl is never nice [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Geordie
Last Chance
13:04 1/5/2003
ohhhh dozzzz i rateeee youuu maaaan [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
MadSpunk
Last Chance
13:04 1/5/2003
At least he's exposed.. hopefully no one will forget this guy cheated like others were forgotten! gl team letters [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
13:05 1/5/2003
o/
;-) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Headshot^Man`
Disturbed
13:07 1/5/2003
i hardly went anywhere during i14, too busy trying to stop my pc from smoking [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
b33p
13:07 1/5/2003
according to CB rules every ladder game sabre played in must be forfieted now :o bit tough of tL as im sure sabre played in a lot of their games. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
JediBitch
fightclubclan
13:08 1/5/2003
wot u on about geordie?

we came outside cos some1 told us that team letters was gona beat us up. i went up to some1 and asked if they were them,and they said 'na im from disturbed'

i dont understand ur comment. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Headshot^Man`
Disturbed
13:08 1/5/2003
hey b33p you **** [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ripper
Rush!
13:08 1/5/2003
yeh, i was there! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
13:10 1/5/2003
There was only one tl out there at the time and he was too stoned to know wtf he was talking about. "Yeah man any of us can beat anyone in the uk, even 4 kings". Then when the barcodes final came up he said "gl but ya not gonna win let's face it none of us can ever touch a clan like that" ;-) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Headshot^Man`
Disturbed
13:11 1/5/2003
cant believe we lost that i14 semi, we would have hammered you in the final with our configs [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
JediBitch
fightclubclan
13:12 1/5/2003
so whats ur point? i had no idea who was tL and who was disturbed,all i knew was that some1 said a bunch of guys outside wanted to beat fcc up(tL) so i went to check it out.

it had nothing to do with disturbed afiak,and geordie is clearly just trying to start s*** :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
13:12 1/5/2003
Don't care. All I was worried about was that molten s*** leaking from my arse at the time. Wept like a schoolgirl every time I had to go to the bog ;-) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Headshot^Man`
Disturbed
13:15 1/5/2003
LOL [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
teamx
13:17 1/5/2003
http://www.legendceramics.co.uk/Saber_-_Part_Deux.zip
there bits in that avi of tL v barcodes on nuke...so much for losing his demo :P dunno how many times you've played them on nuke though :I [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
duck.
Online Multiplayer Gaming
13:20 1/5/2003
The toilets where nice [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
PFCalcio
THX
13:20 1/5/2003
minimum (tL) 27 Apr 16:58 Reply:

well every 1 is entitled to there own opinion, but i have watched the demo back the incodent at the pistol round where u were naded then glocked, if u replay the demo back and turn ur speakers/headphones to a high settin then u can cleary here that there is defo 1/2 ppl in that bomb spot and players can use these sounds to determine where there enemy is within a certain area.

Rofl - [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Headshot^Man`
Disturbed
13:21 1/5/2003
aw that movie comes in at an awesome 8kps [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
SunShip
13:22 1/5/2003
lol

now kids if youve got something to get in the open nows the time to do it :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Geordie
Last Chance
13:22 1/5/2003
lol doz
shut it jedibiatch! cu@BYOClan [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Jolleh
Team56
13:22 1/5/2003
total disgrace [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Dev
theb0g
13:24 1/5/2003
was sposed to be playing tL last night but they came in and said they couldnt make it, know why now. Good luck to tL, rest of the clan shouldnt be persecuted if they didn't know, just be a bit more 'wise' in the future. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Headshot^Man`
Disturbed
13:24 1/5/2003
you f***ing wait till i buy a pc geordie, ill start saving, i34 WILL BE MINE I TELL YOU! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
13:24 1/5/2003
minimum > Mystic Meg [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
13:25 1/5/2003
Geo's PC is space age technology. It was honestly as big as duck, made of some weird alien alloy, hovered... spoke to him etc [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Kronikal
Anti-Climax
13:26 1/5/2003
What did clans expect when they entered Clanbase 5v5 UK league ?
Most of the clans in the ladder are full of bulls*** players like this narb [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Geordie
Last Chance
13:26 1/5/2003
mini monitor~! >:) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
JediBitch
fightclubclan
13:27 1/5/2003
nice to see some maturity geordie,perhaps a 'sorry i was mistaken' ? or a 'i tend to jump to conclusions,and base ur whole skill lvl of ur clan on the 1st non-byoc game they have pld'

grow up :)

i can take a joke,yea it was funny we lost to maim,but we did play bad and deserved to,tho maim did play well.

ppl seem to forget we went on to get 8 rounds as terr on nuke vs obs then win it with ease as ct.

a dissapointing barcodes game is the one ppl shud be slating us for,we pld well below par.

ppl like u geordie just like to act better than others,u think by abusing us u look good ;) we will be at the next ukt lan,hopefully without a merc,and with some preperation.

only then can u judge us =] [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Keiju
UKT 1v1 winner 2003
13:28 1/5/2003
o/ O.o, i watched one of the demos of him on nuke, didnt even look like wallhack :o [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Geordie
Last Chance
13:30 1/5/2003
BITE! dont take it personally, im just fishing for posts like that :) disturbed got disqualified from its first non BYOC event, but life went on, im sure u will do much better again, but im still going to kick your smelly ass u freak [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
GRiFFiN
Virtual Gaming!
13:30 1/5/2003
Owned! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Headshot^Man`
Disturbed
13:32 1/5/2003
I got my driving test tommorow! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
13:33 1/5/2003
shh geo :(

gl rich :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Headshot^Man`
Disturbed
13:33 1/5/2003
luke :)

luke :( [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Geordie
Last Chance
13:34 1/5/2003
mestlol i joke
gl heady with that! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
PFCalcio
THX
13:34 1/5/2003
Rofl - that column is absolutely class. Some of the corniest defences of all time. You have to read the '...when he sees names like b0b he falls apart...' for yourself

A classic :D:D:D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Geordie
Last Chance
13:36 1/5/2003
when i see names like 'duck' i fall apart [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
poog
Disturbed
13:39 1/5/2003
lol, in the space of 13 hrs tarl got called welsh and bit to a geordie post, god tarl sometimes i really do wonder if u ARE welsh afterall

<iM-bagz> headshotlosah i know you ? :D
<fcc-|-poogstar> hes the welsh c*** from fcc
<fcc-|-poogstar> im sure u all know him by that
<iM-bagz> ahhhh
<iM-bagz> the one with "i love yo momma" top
<fcc-|-poogstar> u called jedi welsh
<fcc-|-poogstar> i so love u [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
13:41 1/5/2003
rofl [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
rich
13:42 1/5/2003

DoZ
13:25, 1/5/2003 Geo's PC is space age technology. It was honestly as big as duck, made of some weird alien alloy, hovered... spoke to him etc

LOL [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Headshot^Man`
Disturbed
13:42 1/5/2003
ive been practising for tommorow in my little toy cart out my back garden [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
minimum
13:43 1/5/2003
o_O this came as a big shock to the clan and yes i am > mystic meg ;p
after i viewed the avi with the wallhack i then realised that it was true, tL are sorry for the actions of saber and we are doing every thing we can to put things rite, and we can do nothin more than apologise for the clans that he did cheat against
thx
mini [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
G^D
13:44 1/5/2003
Watched the demos, the avi etc, it is obvious he does. But hopefully ppl wont label the whole team hackers. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Headshot^Man`
Disturbed
13:45 1/5/2003
minimum have you any idea how long hes been doing this for? did he say ? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
13:46 1/5/2003
we already know rich :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
13:46 1/5/2003
You can predict my lottery numbers, b***h ;-) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Headshot^Man`
Disturbed
13:46 1/5/2003
i dont [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
minimum
13:47 1/5/2003
nope sorry i dont i only realise after i had seen the wallhack avi, but i no hes been banned and accused of this before so i am not sure. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
13:49 1/5/2003
ask tarl [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
PFCalcio
THX
13:49 1/5/2003
You ahve my sympathies Minim - you defend a clanmate and then you end up with egg on ur face. You should b applauded for your loyalty.

I've played with and against cheats and its the hardest thing in the world to make a definitive decision. You always try to give people the benefit of the doubt, but then they let you down.

Cheers
Cal [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
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