New Weapons In 1.6

Posted by Ripper at 12:09 9/10/2002.

Recently, Computer & Video Games conducted an interview with Erik Johnson from Valve.
This is it. It's here and it's hot and you won't find it anywhere else. Erik Johnson from Valve was so kind to answer a few questions for us and this is the result. Whether you want to find out Valve's plans for next year including CS 1.6, Counter-Strike: Condition Zero or Steam which will hit the road on the 1st february 2003 or just get to know what one of the biggest game production company has to say this is the right place for you. It might shock you. It might surprise you. It surely won't disapoint you. Have fun!
It's actually a pretty good interview, revealing some things for the first time, most notably the addition of the Famas, Galil and Riot Shield to CS 1.6.

Check out the interview here.

Comments

Ripper
Rush!
12:13 9/10/2002
1. Galil (Terrorist Only)
Manufacturer: Israeli Military Industries
Cost: $2700
Overview: Israel made this weapon to compete with the AK-47 on the battle field, this weapon actually costs less than the already cheap AK-47. Currently the Israeli's "official" weapon, this weapon holds 32 5.56mm NATO rounds, compatible with the M4A1. Gearbox describes the weapon as like the AK, only heavier and thus more accurate.

2. Fusil Automatique, Manufacture d'Armes de St. Etienne (FAMAS) (Counter-Terrorist Only)
Manufacturer: Groupement Industriel des Armements Terrestres
Cost: $2500
It will cost less than the M4A1 and its alternate fire will be burst fire (a three-round burst). A three-round burst fires three rounds faster than the auto-mode can fire the same amount, but has a delay between bursts. This is the official weapon on the French GIGN and will likely play that role in the single player side of the game. It holds 25 5.56mm NATO rounds per clip (the same round that the M4A1 uses).

3. Ballistic Shild IIIA (Counter-Terrorist Only)
This item will block small arms fire (pistols, shotguns, sub-machine guns) and slow down high-caliber rounds to a point where they're not as deadly. The shield will take a primary weapon slot and will be bundled with the FN FiveseveN pistol. The shield will usually cover the front of your body while you peer through the small window, but when you move to fire your pistol, the shield will be moved to the side.

:o [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
tiSSue^
12:19 9/10/2002
woah quality scoop [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Gristy
12:29 9/10/2002
dan get back to work [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DaKid
12:32 9/10/2002
Blimey ... anyone get the feeling that it's new weapons for the sake of having new weapons?

AK is one of the few reasons to like being Terrorist. Now the CTs get one that's even cheaper and will let newbies burst-fire without needing any skill ... that's gotta be worrying.

Pistol shield all very well, but how much more protection will it offer than a stone block? If none, then it's pointless against AWPs definitely, and probably AK/Colt as well, cos you are gonna know where to shoot for the head ... AWP heady through a block does I believe just over 200hp damage ... even 2x the stopping power of a block, we still talking 1-hit kill. Seems like a big waste of money to me :/

New is of course good, but bet it unbalances it :(

yours,

Teh Cynic [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
l3ig2
Game2XS
12:34 9/10/2002
tbh i not like the idea of this shield, cs isnt like this and i dont want it to be like this :(

the new guns are good ideas, as long as they really do exist and they do. But the shield just puts me off cs more! :(

anybody else get the same feeling? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Geordie
Last Chance
12:34 9/10/2002
wonder how much the riot shield is going to be, anything less than 800 could make the pistol rounds very interesting :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ripper
Rush!
12:39 9/10/2002
im gonna be the best in the uk with the riot shield/five seven combination, yup [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ripper
Rush!
12:45 9/10/2002
You could actually get your whole team to just all crouch in a doorway all with riot shields in the pistol round, completely blocking the T's way through. Human blocking mechanism. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
SphericaL
13:10 9/10/2002
cant burst fire ? buy a famas does it for you , AK got too much recoil for ur spray habits ? buy a galli, wanna be a absolute c**t on publics buy a riot shield and block ur team, fking PLD valve [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ripper
Rush!
13:13 9/10/2002
i think it'll be interesting, publics are s*** nowadays anyway, they cant get much worse. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Righteous-
13:13 9/10/2002
wish they would just fix bugs, bring out new maps GOOD maps like dust2,aztec,nuke etc no torn s*** and update anti-cheat software. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Kronikal
Anti-Climax
13:14 9/10/2002
rofl
omg, the shield will be sooooo god damn funny to annoy stupid llamas on servers like jolt an demon...
Also, i would find it quite funny if you could hit someone with your shield, JUST LIKE THE REAL POLICE !

"'ave some of that!" [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
dravicus
13:16 9/10/2002
DaKid, the gun which is like an AK is terrorist only [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
arma`
13:20 9/10/2002
cant login here :(

i read somewhere that the riot shield will cost about $1000 [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Geordie
Last Chance
13:28 9/10/2002
lol will be class on aztec, 32 man server, go in with about 5 of ur m8's as CT block the DD and road block the middle of the bombsite steps so they cant jump out! hahaha cow pen [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Gristy
13:40 9/10/2002
riot shield can only be used with pistol.
and you all knew these exact updates were coming :>
does it mention the gas grenade and mask in the report too? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
mav
masters 0f ownage
13:44 9/10/2002
lol! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
13:45 9/10/2002
i read somewhere that the riot shield will cost about $1000

so its only use will be in the second round of a match after you've won the pistol round, when you'd prefer to buy a good gun anyway - besides which Ts r likely to buy deagles, which would go thru the shield, or nothing, which makes the use of shield pointless cos u could simply own them with rifles at long range against s***ty glocks [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
13:47 9/10/2002
cant burst fire ? buy a famas does it for you , AK got too much recoil for ur spray habits ? buy a galli, wanna be a absolute c**t on publics buy a riot shield and block ur team, fking PLD valve

damn right :| [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
13:49 9/10/2002
Bring back bunnyhopping!!

Could have ppl with shields bh to choke points to slow 'em all down. It'll be a LARF [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DaKid
13:57 9/10/2002
I said ...
AK is one of the few reasons to like being Terrorist. Now the CTs get one that's even cheaper

dravicus 13:16, 9/10/2002
DaKid, the gun which is like an AK is terrorist only

Drav, the new CT only gun is cheaper than the AK. when I said "... get one that's ..." I meant a gun, not an AK :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Grom-
15:01 9/10/2002
Cost: $2700
Overview: Israel made this weapon to compete with the AK-47 on the battle field, this weapon actually costs less than the already cheap AK-47.

Why do they say costs less?
Is the AK being increased in price?
Why make a cheaper better AK? :|

csnation are such lamers :>
specially garry [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Obz
15:03 9/10/2002
pah new stuff = cool in my books. 3 weeks of playing it and no one will care. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
tiSSue`
15:25 9/10/2002
i am creaming just thinking about a riot shield [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DaKid
15:39 9/10/2002
do you need a tissue then? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Slider-
15:49 9/10/2002
Exactly. The Riot Shield will only be usefull in the first round, after that you dont have a chance. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
15:50 9/10/2002
^

and dan is only creaming about the riot shield cos he'll be able to wallhack and see thru the shield while everyone else has a restricted view while usin it :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Simmo
15:53 9/10/2002
Shield i thought that was gonna be single player only for condition zero.

This is gonna annoy a few people :/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
15:57 9/10/2002
ye a 'few' ;/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Lyo`
eSports.Edge
15:59 9/10/2002
when 1.6 comes out every1 will moan for a few weeks then carry on playin it like usual [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
sloop
16:05 9/10/2002
yer ull be able to see thro it dan [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
iron
16:11 9/10/2002
it wouldnt be so bad if there wasnt a shield, that shield is the most pathetic thing ive ever seen, and its getting yet again, more noob friendly, u can buy a gun thats just as powerful as a colt, but now, it bursts for you, gg valve. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
iron
16:15 9/10/2002
valve need to fix the broken things, but valve always fix things which arent broken(such as the accuracy changes in 1.4) and now the weapons, fix the f***ing engine u stupid f***ing c**ksssssss [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Mathieu
16:21 9/10/2002
hahaha leave the s*** weopons and nomadic tribal gear for other games Valve. This is CS ffs. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Obz
16:23 9/10/2002
yeah, because terrorists are never nomadic or tribal..... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ND`
16:26 9/10/2002
this game will rock, GO VALVE :DDD [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
decrepit
Croydon
16:26 9/10/2002
theres very little about a riot shield that is either nomadic or tribal. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DaKid
16:31 9/10/2002
that'd be why the riot shield is CT only then? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Eagle
16:39 9/10/2002
I wanna know if they are going to add m16 and ak47s to the list. I want an m16! It'd own, specially with secondary fire gren launcher :P

I like the idea, i getting a bit bored with m4 and aks atm. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ripper
Rush!
16:41 9/10/2002
no, the AK 47 will NEVER be in cs..... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Fox
ClanNEW
16:47 9/10/2002
Cost: $2700
Overview: Israel made this weapon to compete with the AK-47 on the battle field, this weapon actually costs less than the already cheap AK-47.

Ak 47 cost $2500 Gali cost $2700

2500 < 2700 therefore quote == "false" [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
shads
theb0g
16:49 9/10/2002
christ do u lamers overreact [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
shads
theb0g
17:09 9/10/2002
has no one learnt anything about cs in how many versions?

every version some bs rumours start about whats coming, 40% fact 60% speculation, then people get stupid ideas in thier head, spread them around, and everyone gets paranoid about the changes

then when the update comes out, everyone has all the s*** ideas already in thier heads and expect everything to be crap so they look at all the new things with a negative approach, why am i not surprised how everyone moans about all the changes due to this, yet after weeks of playing with them, they forget all the rumours and retarded ideas that were spread about and they learn what has actually changed, and find they like it. even the things that u dont like in new versions are 10% as bad as they were when u still had all the negative speculation in ur head expecting it to be super s***.

cs is definately a mental game.

point is, stfu moaning when u have like 1% of the facts and just wait to see what its actually like. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Squid
17:14 9/10/2002
Im still p***ed off with 1.5
just annoys me more that 1.6 is taking this long

i just hope they fix all the bs bugs in cs atm

and that u can use the knife and riot shield together [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Negotiator
Clan ONE
17:20 9/10/2002
hitboxs fixed? :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
P!@Z
17:24 9/10/2002
Wot the point of u all getting excited, we will all hate it as soon as it is released, same as any other version.

then 3 days after release we will hate all the cheaters

then 3 weeks later all will be happy (minus tha gay cheats)

It is all so predictable. Same every release. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
St_George
g30rg3h
UKTerrorist
17:40 9/10/2002
i want comedy kippers for knives. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
landshark
17:41 9/10/2002
stfu you moaning c***s,

ps-riot gear sounds CLASS [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Eagle
17:44 9/10/2002
AK-47S! Basically a small version of the ak. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Kronikal
Anti-Climax
17:53 9/10/2002
Every new release comes with "I quit cs" - "f***ing hate this version" - "/join #bring-back-beta5.2" etc ..

Quite annoying ....... "tbh" [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
shads
theb0g
18:04 9/10/2002
that's the worst joke ever, and it was prolly accidental too :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
KaN
North & South
18:11 9/10/2002
thought they were gonna include a shockrifle..
hmm [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
emfive
18:51 9/10/2002
I'd like to shock combo rushers on publics, would be fun. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
rd
theb0g
19:05 9/10/2002
its gangster luvin! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
omg ! Sarge
Shoot First Ask Later
19:08 9/10/2002
new guns will be good as long as their of some use, which judging by the last 2 added to CS :P

nah hopefully the FAMAS will be quite good, be a nice 2nd round gun alt. to the mp5 if u win 1st round and wanna save some cash

as for that Galil thing.....its going to more accurate than the AK...

prolly means slower ROF but same/slight less power

sounds deadly to me =] [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
kaids-
19:14 9/10/2002
sounds class, can't wait :)

famas should have been in cs long ago... i just hope they don't make the game even laggier. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
shads
theb0g
19:21 9/10/2002
need more potato power kaiddle [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
snail
20:34 9/10/2002
whats the problem? all you 1337 clan players dont have to waste time buying a shield, show us how good you all are by wasting the guys running around with one. did you consider that the bloke carrying it might run a bit slower? and so what if he crouches and blokes a choke point, im sure the DE will shoot straight through it anyway. they cater for the masses, ie, the "n00bs" on public servers, not the minority of serious players who would complain about anything they ever released. if a newbie can use the FAMAS effectively, then surely a "1337" player can use it ten times more effectively. good day. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DK
Stalk Confront Engage Eliminate
20:48 9/10/2002
good day! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Eagle
21:04 9/10/2002
Ak47s is to the Ak47 what the m4a1 is to the m16. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Nick^
21:06 9/10/2002
TBH Colt M4A1 is an M-16, same mechanism and workings just shorter stock/barrel. Other name for it is Colt Commando. So technically there is an M-16 in CS. TBH! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
snail
21:07 9/10/2002
Do you mean the AK-74 or the AK-47s? :D D: [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
decrepit
Croydon
21:32 9/10/2002
gun geeks. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
22:03 9/10/2002
sounds class, can't wait :)

famas should have been in cs long ago... i just hope they don't make the game even laggier.

they always do tho... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
msx-
00:55 10/10/2002
Can You hit people with your shield ? Now that would be cool ! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
shads
theb0g
01:14 10/10/2002
f*** a gas grenade i want a banana skin... just think of the funnies u could have :F [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
mav
masters 0f ownage
01:37 10/10/2002
its all about the money, vlave dont care about us cos we have already bought half-life. They wanna make the mod appeal to newcomers who then go out and buy half life.

what i think anyway. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
omg ! Sarge
Shoot First Ask Later
14:06 10/10/2002
shads should become lead CS coder

he knows what the people want :x [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
shads
theb0g
15:26 10/10/2002
more jeepathon maps ? :DD [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
PeaKster'
21:19 10/10/2002
I agree it will suck for the person using it (shield) but it might be good for teamwork eg :

vs a choke point on a map the cts could av one person with shield go out first take a few bullets but hopefully survive then get out of the way once a ct behind u is in a good pos to awp the terror if u know what i mean......

(im asuming u can move with shield up? and awp dont kill through it or ak go through it with ease) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
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