CSGN Premier Division

Posted by Velta at 13:44 22/12/2003.

The CSGN league has announced its division placements for the upcoming Season 3. This season promises to be the best to date, with more organisation and better prizes. A total of 50 clans have been picked for this season, spread across 5 divisions; Premiership, Division1, Division2, Division3 and Division4.

Premier Division
  • GDO
  • LastChance
  • MonkeyMagic
  • Zebras
  • FightClubClan
  • Choke
  • imminent
  • Game2xs
  • UniCon.cs
  • BLACKLiGHT

The league is due to start the second week of January, Monday the 12th. The CSGN Season 2 cup will take place before this. Best of luck to all teams involved.

Update - I grabbed Obsidian for a quick Q&A.

What does CSGN promise on the organisation front for Season 3?

CSGN|Obsidian:: Set dates and time for all games on CSGN multiplay servers, providing the servers are good that is, but we have four of them.

Will this Season have any prizes, if so, what are they?

CSGN|Obsidian: Yes it definately will have prizes. These will be from a prize pool made up of websites, mousemats, clan server (hopefully) and i'm just about to send off emails and written letters to 3 large hardware companies and 1 PC magazine regarding CSGN which i think from preliminary talks, may prove succesful. Obviously not with all 4 companies though. During the 1st season we couldn't even get server sponsorship, the 2nd season we had people coming to us. As for the 3rd season, we think we are now old enough and have a large enough user base to be worth while to some of the larger companies. I cannot promise but i can hope.

With BWCSL now gone, the UK lacks a decent "p2p" league where you can actually win cash prizes. Can you forsee CSGN going "Pay 2 Play" in the future?

CSGN|Obsidian: No never - we hope to be able to offer "decent prizes" without ever having to become p2p. Karl and i both agree on this. It was my aim from the start never to be profit orientated or even p2p.

Comments

Smiffeh
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
13:45 22/12/2003
what the hell [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
TT
Xtra
13:46 22/12/2003
bo! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Velta
Professional Gamer
13:46 22/12/2003
Where's Xtra? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
adren
13:52 22/12/2003
should be fun [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
fez
13:58 22/12/2003
should be a good, lots of decent teams in there [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
madmk
14:00 22/12/2003
yeah decent EXCLUDING ZERBAS! (jk wub :D) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Venomous
BLACKLiGHT
14:00 22/12/2003
yeh, think it will be really good with organised games :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Katori
Choke
14:04 22/12/2003
*ouch* tough crowd! Should be fun. gl all [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
fez
14:05 22/12/2003
</3 for u madmk :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Zorro-
Clan [F]
14:05 22/12/2003
noooo [F]orgotten wasnt picked :(((
cant we take sG's place :] ? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smiffeh
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
14:07 22/12/2003
u can take Rav0r's space Zorro my friend [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Velta
Professional Gamer
14:08 22/12/2003
But why, Rav0r has that thing that lets you see through walls? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
TT
Xtra
14:14 22/12/2003
behind u velta! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Velta
Professional Gamer
14:21 22/12/2003
f*** [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
dh
14:26 22/12/2003
Will division 1 get a fuNc mousepad if we win? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
madmk
14:28 22/12/2003
lol [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Obsidian
14:28 22/12/2003
no :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Venomous
BLACKLiGHT
14:30 22/12/2003
id be happy with a func pad, mine is all sticky in the middle, god knows why, hmmmmmm.... ;) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Dizzee
14:34 22/12/2003
GL <3 Obsidian [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Otis
Rush!
14:34 22/12/2003
i'd say mm will give lc a good game, but i'd expect last chance to win that fair comfortably :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
m!lky
fluid element
14:34 22/12/2003
thats pathetic, we didnt get accepted for div 2, fair enough, I didnt mind, we only picked div 2 because we aint be in a league for a while, but then Ive just looked at the clans in div 2 that did get accepted, and thats a joke.
How we didnt get in I dont know, but with the teams in it, Im quite happy we didnt. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Psy^
xtreme9.uk
14:37 22/12/2003
fle aren't even accepted at all are they ? that sucks :/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ablation
contact!
14:45 22/12/2003
We were rejected as well o/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Kemistry
fluid element
14:45 22/12/2003
p***take [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Kemistry
fluid element
14:47 22/12/2003
i bet half the clans in it wont even last to the second week of jan [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Headshot^Man`
Disturbed
14:48 22/12/2003
good stuff keeping an ogranised league going, sure this season will be entertaining. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
patriK
14:49 22/12/2003
cool guy seems a bit stupid that my clan in div3 gunna be quite fun to win everygame though [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
m0rf
team-X
15:02 22/12/2003
not the only team that didnt get accepted, and as i was told by the orga's they picked the teams they liked and wanted not the best teams they could get. sounds a great league to be in. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
madmk
15:03 22/12/2003
http://starterupsteve.servepics.com/swf/bigblackben.html? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Katori
Choke
15:08 22/12/2003
Some capable clans in Div2 tbh m!lky. prolific, remote, void and vitaminx, plus a tidy hero clan in there too ;o) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
wLz
fluid element
15:10 22/12/2003
"they picked the teams they liked and wanted"

seems fair. :

s*** happens i spose, still sucks tho. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
dL
Atari.Crew
15:12 22/12/2003
patriK
14:49, 22/12/2003 cool guy seems a bit stupid that my clan in div3 gunna be quite fun to win everygame though

my dear friend patrik... lets not get ahead of ourselves just yet :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Katori
Choke
15:14 22/12/2003
What clans is he in?

#collective reformed by someone?? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
dL
Atari.Crew
15:21 22/12/2003
yeh collective were reformed, but he's playing for Acknowledged (i aint got a clue who they are) - may be good but c**kyness never got anyone anywhere ;] [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
LEEZER
15:32 22/12/2003
fcc should be in div4 atm [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Headshot^Man`
Disturbed
15:32 22/12/2003
never lee! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
m!lky
fluid element
15:32 22/12/2003
Katori
Choke
15:08, 22/12/2003 Some capable clans in Div2 tbh m!lky. prolific, remote, void and vitaminx, plus a tidy hero clan in there too ;o)


No offence,

but no. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Obsidian
15:33 22/12/2003
lol [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Otis
Rush!
15:33 22/12/2003
who? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Obsidian
15:35 22/12/2003
milky stop being horrible to people. its not nice. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
HeNdie
Void
15:35 22/12/2003
division 2 ????
Just because we do a bit like s7 did, just pcw and not play in online competetions, but then play on lan :| [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
m!lky
fluid element
15:36 22/12/2003
how am I being horrible? first off I said no offence, and secondly, thats my opinion [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Undone^
ForsakeN
15:37 22/12/2003
what were the uber cool cheat detection methods CSGN said they were going to implement?
CD would be better than nothing!! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Par
suiGeneris
15:40 22/12/2003
Why did Game2xs get promoted? They lost practically every game in Division 1 last season. Nothing to do with the fact that Stono and Obsidian are in them? :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Par
suiGeneris
15:42 22/12/2003
Oh and sG are dead, spot up for grabs in the illustrious Div1! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
hihi
zebras
15:42 22/12/2003
g2xs was in Premier last season i think [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
wLz
fluid element
15:44 22/12/2003
y didn't they get demoted if they lost almost every game? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
m!lky
fluid element
15:46 22/12/2003
hahaha, if thats true, then the hole league is aload of B*llocks. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
HeNdie
Void
15:46 22/12/2003
who are clan2e............11!>">>!" [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Hotshot
Choke
15:53 22/12/2003
neither Obsidian or Stono are in g2xs last time i checked? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Par
suiGeneris
15:54 22/12/2003
Hmm, I got seriously mixed up there... confused Clan2e with Game2xs. Still though, why weren't Clan2e relegated :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Par
suiGeneris
15:55 22/12/2003
http://www.csgn.co.uk/clan_more.asp?ID=246

Oh dear, default city. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Undone^
ForsakeN
15:56 22/12/2003
surely he means clan2e [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Kemistry
fluid element
15:56 22/12/2003
! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ColdAsIce
ImaGine
15:59 22/12/2003
Obsidian and Co probaly been a bit harsh on who to let in and who not to let in but at the end of the day we all know 90% of the clans rejected with either:

a) fold
B) Inactive

and probaly most of the lower div clans will fold before the season ends. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Undone^
ForsakeN
16:01 22/12/2003
they drew with 2s2p!! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
wLz
fluid element
16:08 22/12/2003
whos 2 say 90% of the rejected clans will fold or go inactive? thats bs [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Zorro-
Clan [F]
16:08 22/12/2003
may i remind you that league/cup supervisors usually have more criteria then just skill / a good result vs a known team. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Katori
Choke
16:12 22/12/2003
Past history of whinage etc? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ColdAsIce
ImaGine
16:12 22/12/2003
Probaly only need to take alook at the last 2 seasons to check m8y.

I know for a fact that even some clans that are in there that last season the remained inactive for the majority of the season. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
wLz
fluid element
16:12 22/12/2003
such as? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
fsk
twisted Reality
16:12 22/12/2003
just cos ur ranked 1st on SK insider servers dont mean ur pro patrik :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
St3al7h
Collective
16:13 22/12/2003
we (collective) are in div3, ive no idea how good the teams in our div are but patrik seems to think he will rape us dunno what clan hes from :D i just wanted to join a decent league and get some regular games, gonna be s***e if all the clans in our div fold within a few weeks of it starting [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Par
suiGeneris
16:13 22/12/2003
Zorro is a corrupt b******, don't listen to him [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
wLz
fluid element
16:13 22/12/2003
'such as' aimed at zorro [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
St3al7h
Collective
16:15 22/12/2003
i reformed Collective Katori, we got half old lineup half new. Looking forward to some decent games :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ColdAsIce
ImaGine
16:18 22/12/2003
no offense but you will probaly fold like before ;/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
fsk
twisted Reality
16:19 22/12/2003
ye but least it wasnt cos someone cheated :x [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
wLz
fluid element
16:20 22/12/2003
"I know for a fact that even some clans that are in there that last season the remained inactive for the majority of the season."

we were talking about clans that were rejected... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
St3al7h
Collective
16:20 22/12/2003
we have a stable lineup with lots of players that know what they gonna be doing for the next year or so, we wont be folding, its the clans that are full of 15 year olds that change name week to week and reform in order to change one player in there lineup that shouldent be allowed to join leagues [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ColdAsIce
ImaGine
16:21 22/12/2003
/me cries [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Obsidian
16:22 22/12/2003
if anyone wants to get shirty about the teams picked just pm me. I'm in an arguementative mood.

For information regarding the anti-cheat and the terms and conditions your CL signed you up to (and your life) regarding season 3

www.csgn.co.uk 2nd news post down (as of 16:20 - 22 dec) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Katori
Choke
16:22 22/12/2003
gl & hf St3al7h [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ColdAsIce
ImaGine
16:24 22/12/2003
Obsidian I think you should probaly cut the league down to 4 divisions.

You knows thers a s*** load of clans that will ruin the season. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
St3al7h
Collective
16:25 22/12/2003
aye gl hf 2u2 :D the prem looks like it will be lc vs mm to decide it, but beyond that id say anyone could finish 3rd [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
emfive
16:25 22/12/2003
The Electronic Sports League made a very interesting annoucement today: they have decided to launch the European Nations Championship. The concept of the tournament is quite simple: 24 national teams will face each other in four groups and the eight best teams will then compete in the LAN finals for the prize money of 20.000 €.

The two games that will be played are Counter-Strike and Warcraft III: TFT. Each national team will be made of players selected by partners of the ESL in the country. The two tournaments will start in February 2004. The groups have already been made, and are "based on regions and connectivities for best possible pings".

Pretty major news ^^ Was on schroet :> [ Score: 0, offtopic | Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ColdAsIce
ImaGine
16:27 22/12/2003
k so you posted it on this news comments page because???? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
emfive
16:29 22/12/2003
Because my dick is bigger than your dick [ Score: 0, abusive | Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Obsidian
16:29 22/12/2003
ColdAsIce: Bit harsh, that’s your opinion. the teams in it are in it because most of them aren't c**ks (accept the pro gamer wannabes - probably at least 1 team in each division) who i'll just tell them to go if they cause trouble.

Usually division 4 is the best division for friendliness and games - as in, they play them. This is because these clans are in it because they genuinely want to be, which I think is the way it should be.

Anyway good luck all. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ColdAsIce
ImaGine
16:32 22/12/2003
Thats the idea behind it but you just need to look at bwcsl with teams that actually pay money to play and then fold :/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
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