CXG Gun Incident

Posted by Iain at 17:23 8/12/2003.

Yesterday a gun was pulled on a staff member at the CyberXGames Qualifiers in LA which lead to the event being cancelled. A statement has recently been released by CXG:

At 4:30am (CST) I was informed by CXG staff and representatives of Gamers X of a disturbance that took place outside of the Gamers X facility. In response to this event I have prepared the following statement, which is based upon police reports, research, and information gathered to date from those involved, I prepared this type of response because I believe it important to the community that these actions be revealed and discussed:

Late last evening following the completion of a match involving two Los Angeles based teams a fight was initiated outside of the Gamers X LAN Center, host of the CXG Los Angeles Qualifier; upon learning of the disturbance Chris Hill of CXG, and my son, was asked to try and resolve the matter and stop the fighting; as he broke up the fight he and others were jumped by people associated with Team BZ. As Chris, and others attempted to calm the situation a member/associate of Team BZ ran to his car opened the trunk of the car grabbed a gun and placed it to the head of Chris Hill while other Team Members and associates encouraged the person with the gun to fire!

The full statement can be read at Gotfrag.com.

Comments

spicyjj
17:26 8/12/2003
whats the world coming too [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
HeaDBulB
17:27 8/12/2003
now thats just stupid :l

OMG YOU BEAT MY CLAN IM'A GONNA BUSS' A CAP IN YO ASS [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
kirdi
Last Chance
17:27 8/12/2003
the gun incident wasnt over cs - it was over words that were exchanged before and after the match. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Transcend
deliverance
17:29 8/12/2003
bloody americans [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Scrappy
Sniper's Alley
17:29 8/12/2003
I blame the parents. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
e
17:30 8/12/2003
haha , transcend sed it all [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
`NWA
17:32 8/12/2003
Why post this here, we'll get a 5000 comment flame and it will have all been said on gotfrag :/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
kel
Oudhof 8 Society
17:32 8/12/2003
At first i thought: "only in america". But yet again everywhere there are crazy ppl like that. Must say gg to the USA gun policy :| [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
adren
17:35 8/12/2003
the gun law is silly, if guns are for protection why are there so many murders? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
TT
Xtra
17:35 8/12/2003
it was dh [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
17:37 8/12/2003
best comment i've seen.

"nobody would need a weapon if nobody had one" [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
madmk
17:37 8/12/2003
america owns [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ht
unicon.cs
17:40 8/12/2003
wtf!?! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Aaron.uKs
17:42 8/12/2003
Its not just america its all over the world in every country no1 is safe like they should be, america did start it in a way by the law that they have dumbest s*** ive ever seen but hey we cannot help it if they have a gun hungry president can we? no well all i can say is if we all look out for eachother stick together as the UK Gamers maybe we could teach every1 a thing or 2 about peace and love etc let us be known for the sensible people no flaming no arguing guess what you probably dont give 2 s***s about this post oh well nm i tried. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
akujii0r
Infinity-eSports
17:43 8/12/2003
for more info pm Domje he just got back! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Infinity`
#Harmless
17:44 8/12/2003
Guy went clutch! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Velta
Professional Gamer
17:44 8/12/2003
Oooo I spy with my eye an American Gun Law debate [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Atemi
ForsakeN
17:45 8/12/2003
wot a moron

this guy puts the`danneh to shame [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Seaweed
17:46 8/12/2003
i blame rap music [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Iain
17:46 8/12/2003
agreed, seaweed [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
enuex
17:49 8/12/2003
Beautiful Aaron. Beautiful :'( [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
mOrt
17:50 8/12/2003
only in the good ole US of A [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Magic^
17:50 8/12/2003
pop a cap [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
enuex
17:55 8/12/2003
Oh also, Bowling For Columbine was on - ironically - on saturday night. That film goes great lengths towards proving that gun law, music culture, and ethnicity have NO effect on gun crime. Canada has more guns per household than America, Germany has a more outlandish goth based music following than America, and Britain has a much more mixed ethnicity than the US. Yet all these countries have under a 10th of the US's gun-related crimes, with the US being only 4 times larger than Britain let alone larger nations such as Germany. The film didn't say anything about rap music but the UK gets spoonfed all the same stuff, so I can't see it as having a major effect. The film pinned the blame to the fact that - despite dropping gun crime in the US - gun crime news broadcasting has risen 600% in the last year alone, and dominates news and entertainment programs (eg: Cops, American Cops: Live etc).

It's not the amount of guns, it's the obsession ;)

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TecwynWhittock
18:00 8/12/2003
Britain has a much more mixed ethnicity than the US

wrong [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
REb
18:02 8/12/2003
there was a program about the americans and their obsession about guns two nights ago on ch4 i think lol weird :( [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
w1cked
Croydon
18:05 8/12/2003
no s*** REBEL [ Score: 0, pointless | Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
18:06 8/12/2003
reb do yourself a favour and edit/delete that comment b4 anyone else sees it ;p [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
enuex
18:06 8/12/2003
TecwynWhittock: OK, for the purposes of argument, lets assume US has a more mixed ethnicity.

Do you believe that has an effect on their gun crime levels? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Conscript
classified
18:09 8/12/2003
They probably all the criminals that got deported from here when america was ours ;) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
enuex
18:10 8/12/2003
Conscript: thats Australia ;) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
w4rd
18:10 8/12/2003
Basically, america is a much bigger place and has a very different society. It is obvious there will be more events like this taking place there. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Choke|MaT
Choke
18:11 8/12/2003
pure comedy..... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
NoToRiOuS
2 COOL 4 SKOOL
UKTerrorist
18:16 8/12/2003
Really lame and spoiled the event totally, arest charge and ban the clan from future events. c**ks like that, dont think and ruin the gaming community. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
fraZie
contact!
18:18 8/12/2003
bloody americans, shud be skinned alive and fed to piranhas, and all the american movie star ladies shud come live with me, thats an ideal world.. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
fez
18:18 8/12/2003
americans have the inability to argue their point with words, or come to some agree. hence this problem, maybe a bit out of context but the same with the war on iraq [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
TecwynWhittock
18:18 8/12/2003
The majority of gun crime in the USA will be perpetrated by ethnic groups such as negros and hispanics.

http://www.newnation.org/NNN-news-crime.html [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
critter
18:20 8/12/2003
its not the ethnicities, its the way the ethnicities are treated [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
enuex
18:20 8/12/2003
by racists like TecwynWhittock ? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
TecwynWhittock
18:22 8/12/2003
http://www.faqs.org/docs/jargon/Y/YHBT.html [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
hihi
zebras
18:25 8/12/2003
its not because they are negros and hispanics its because they are poor, 100 years ago it would be all the white poors doing all the crime :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
enuex
18:25 8/12/2003
You are quite likely to see this if you respond incautiously

Unlucky. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Undone^
ForsakeN
18:31 8/12/2003
thats gay [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
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deliverance
18:33 8/12/2003
I blame counter-strike, for teaching that kid how to aim at the head. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
TecwynWhittock
18:33 8/12/2003
TecwynWhittock: OK, for the purposes of argument, lets assume US has a more mixed ethnicity.

Do you believe that has an effect on their gun crime levels?

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/crimoff. -htm remove the -)

Sixty-four- percent of prison inmates belonged to racial or ethnic minorities in 2001.

In 2001, an estimated 2.7% of adults in the U.S. had served time in prison
The prevalence of imprisonment in 2001 was higher for
-- black males (16.6%) and Hispanic males (7.7%) than for white males (2.6%)
-- black females (1.7%) and Hispanic females (0.7%) than white females (0.3%)

Lifetime chances of a person going to prison are higher for
-- men (11.3%) than for women (1.8%)
-- blacks (18.6%) and Hispanics (10%) than for whites (3.4%)
Based on current rates of first incarceration, an estimated 32% of black males will enter State or Federal prison during their lifetime, compared to 17% of Hispanic males and 5.9% of white males [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
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deliverance
18:35 8/12/2003
and who gives a s*** about emerican ethnicity, the problem is someone took a game to far, it happens everythere. Only difference is the nerd had a gun cos he couldnt lift a basball bat. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Choke|MaT
Choke
18:41 8/12/2003
That's very nice TW apart from the fact that there is still far too much racism in the world, severely unbalancing those stats. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
b0sH
twisted Reality
18:42 8/12/2003
End of the day americans are just thick. I was on holiday with my m8 in Italy chattin to some american lads at the bar, he asked my m8 where he was from originally, he answered "Italy", the american lad then asked " What state is that in then?" I mean how ignorant and thick have you got to be? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Toomy
18:42 8/12/2003
are you trying to say it's in an hispanic/black mans nature to commit gun crime? it's nurture, not nature. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
TecwynWhittock
18:43 8/12/2003
That's very nice TW apart from the fact that there is still far too much racism in the world, severely unbalancing those stats.

Couldn't agree more, the sooner the world is rid of Mugabe the better. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Hyperion
18:44 8/12/2003
i believe negro is not PC [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
pop
quality Teamplay
18:53 8/12/2003
Im not surprised ... fkn retarded yanks and there fkn retarded goverment who insist on letting everyone above the age of 3 months to be allowed to own a gun.

I watched "Bowling for columbine" other night ..... 11,000 gun related murders last year .... there were 68 in canada who have roughly same number of guns to ppl ratio as the fkn prik lord yanks. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Domje
19:06 8/12/2003
I think you'll find this is TOTALLY innacurate.
Its also a coverup to avoid 'bad press'... I was at the even HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY IT? I saw what f***ing happened. Don't try to tell me im wrong because I will pull a gun out while eating my dunkin donuts and wearing white trainers with a matching american flag T -Shirt.

TEXAS WHAT [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
emfive
19:08 8/12/2003
I was on holiday with my m8 in Italy chattin to some american lads at the bar

I respect your lifestyle choice and agree that lad was thick! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
b0sH
twisted Reality
19:12 8/12/2003
Look I was confused! I never enjoyed it and his accent just made me hard, s*** erm i mean, ahhh bollocks [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
SFAL^Sarge
Viva la!
19:13 8/12/2003
the gun policy is one thing.......

it still takes some stupid f***ing yank to actualy pull a gun on someone for the policy to be mistreated, dont think its the USA government at fault here... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ddd
19:13 8/12/2003
did u hear that 90% of statistics were made up? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Dizzee
19:16 8/12/2003
ROFL [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
SFAL^Sarge
Viva la!
19:18 8/12/2003
dont ppl get shot in LA for getting gerkins in their burgers? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
GaZ-
19:20 8/12/2003
hahahha [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
pop
quality Teamplay
19:23 8/12/2003
thing is tho sarge .... ppl in america dont think pulling a gun out is a big deal anymore. Afterall everyone has one.

If the same thing was to happen in the UK .... ppl wud be scared, i'm most of the ppl in the UK aint seen a gun irl so if faced with one would be scared.

prolly :> [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
butters
19:24 8/12/2003
Fackin Americans tbh [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
SFAL^Sarge
Viva la!
19:28 8/12/2003
true pop

but still, its like saying you have the means to kill someone with a large kitchen knife ( just an example ) _BUT_ because u think normaly, u dont go and kill someone with it

whos to say if it wasnt a gun that the guy pulled, it might have been a knife/crowbar/baseball bat

the guy is blatently just some LA Yardie who couldnt hack getting owned and is prolly one of the pricks online who shout INTERP?^%?^!!^^!! MOFOz0r

:> [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
SFAL^Sarge
Viva la!
19:31 8/12/2003
BZ "croo" [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
pop
quality Teamplay
19:32 8/12/2003
:P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Hairy
Rush!
19:36 8/12/2003
anyway giving the statistics on americas freindly fire percentage, he'd prolly end up wasting his own clan with out realising! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Jimmeneh
UFO
19:41 8/12/2003
ahahhhaah retards. you're all retards. retardo boys....go back to retardo land retards. rofl retards.

hahahaha GOGOGOGO iraqis, shoot the americans AHAHAA BOMB THEM ALL ABAWHwahbAWHBAWBH. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Jimmeneh
UFO
19:42 8/12/2003
'too much racism'

rofl go away hippy boy whoever said that.

murder the jews ASBAHAWBHAWHBAWABHW [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Jimmeneh
UFO
19:43 8/12/2003
you all sound so retarded trying to speak seriously and you all either spout crud thinking it's true about the 'world' and policy and statistics...or you've gone off to google and just pasted stuff to sound intelligent.

you know nothing. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Jimmeneh
UFO
19:44 8/12/2003
Spam spam the musical fruit the more you eat the more you ahahahah ohsdohsdsdjosdoj [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
rd
theb0g
19:45 8/12/2003
ive got my piece in my trousers, the girls love to see me in action with it. when i got it to a girls face the others all shout SHOOT HER SHOOT HER! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Hehao^
M19
19:50 8/12/2003
LOL BOSh got a well good point there, america such a big place so they never go outside of america for holidays, thats why they are ignorant of the world outside USA. Thats what I learnt at economics ^^ :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ProdiGy
19:54 8/12/2003
America home of Jerry Springer and coloured pop corn... what a suprise [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
butters
20:13 8/12/2003
Woz type of gun woz it Glock by anychance [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Chris0
20:24 8/12/2003
probably bought a tmp by accident instead of an mp5. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ddd
20:42 8/12/2003
admins were scared when he pulled out a defuser kit [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
kronic
Landed
20:56 8/12/2003
no big deal happens all the time by me wuda been worth posting if sum1 was shot with an uzi 9mm and then blew up the place with a baZooKa [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Rhyzz
Nocturne
21:10 8/12/2003
sad yanks resorting to violence over a game, in this country, noone would dare just pull a gun on someone and threaten them, they'd be taken down so fast by the public walking past, i suppose thats something we should be thankful for, people in this country generally have no respect for w**kers, if you saw someone being robbed, would you run across and knock the s*** out of the robber? or either ignore it or just ring the police? like the yanks do!

i busted a shoplifter saturday night y0, he got out of my shop so fast! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
cain
Bleeding-edge
21:11 8/12/2003
yawn who cares it was only an american the gun was pointed at [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
RH
Landed
21:12 8/12/2003
i know ryan on way home 2day 3 guys tried jackin me with glocks so i busted that de .50 u give me last week f***ing p***ys s*** themselfs and shoke my hand saying SAFE BRO [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
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