ESEA: Ten Of The Best - CS CPL Players

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	Blitz Editor UKTerrorist 15:46 9/2/2004	(This was an automated post) The guys over on E-SEA have released the first article in their new 'Ten of the Best' series. As you'll have guessed from the headline, this one focuses on the top ten CS CPL players of all time. Everyone you'd expect to see there, is there, from the likes of HeatoN and Medion, to elemeNt and XeqtR; they're all there. None of the 4K lads made the list of ten, though Dark and Xenon are in the 'honourable mentions' list. Unsurprisingly, the list is dominated by Swedes, and only one of the top ten is from outside Scandinavia...KSharp, of course. Here's a snippet from the HeatoN verdict: "The alpha male of competitive Counter-Strike. Simply put the most successful Counter-Strike player of all time beyond a shadow of a doubt. Out of 12 CPL attendances 10 have resulted in victories, that's an insane statistic and one which is unlikely to be matched anytime soon unless the legendary HeatoN-Pott1 combo splits up. His CPL victories have won his teams over $200,000 in prize money. To put that in perspective: that's twice the total prize purse of the next CPL event. HeatoN has won CPLs in 6 seperate countries ensuring his name is always on the tip of every Counter-Strike fan's tongue when CPL time comes." Although he's not won a CPL, surely Mangiacapra was worthy of an honourable mention? For consistency at the CPL level, if nothing else. Anyway, you can catch the full article over on their site. In other community news, Core E-Sports have continued their recent run of interviews, by catching up with Holden, from top US clan, Forsaken. Read the whole interview over there. Source: SoGamed [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Pimpboy feo 15:49 9/2/2004	the "hounourable mentions" section could of been filled by at least 20 ppl including mangiacapra but i suppose they had to draw the line somewhere [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Blitz Editor UKTerrorist 15:52 9/2/2004	this is true, but he's more deserving than some listed...mind you, I'm v biased :) oh, and recon, it's not actually, which is why all the various news sites are only reporting it today. The date says the 6th, but it's not been there since then :) [Edited by Blitz at 16:07, 9/2/2004] [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	alicat! 16:08 9/2/2004	Dont know about mangiacapra, but I think Xenon was worth a top 10 place. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Genics thed0n 16:12 9/2/2004	why they always say heaton is the most sucsesfull player ever. surely potti has won exactly what he has? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Katori Choke 16:14 9/2/2004	Written by Thorin, no wonder Liquid isn't included, bloody born again Scandanavian. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Blitz Editor UKTerrorist 16:15 9/2/2004	Genics, I think he says their records are identical, except from CPL Holland where Heaton's team won it, and potti could only manage second with his :) lol katori [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	w00kie euthanasia 16:16 9/2/2004	haha [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Genics thed0n 16:17 9/2/2004	potti is better anyway! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	w00kie euthanasia 16:17 9/2/2004	personal oppinion :) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Seaweed 16:20 9/2/2004	potti never gets mentioned cos he's black. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Blitz Editor UKTerrorist 16:21 9/2/2004	except he did get mentioned, eejit. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ReCoN^ 16:29 9/2/2004	i didnt actually mean it was old i just said that for the sake of it [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Alk0r 16:31 9/2/2004	blitz has gone over bored with those magical 3 letters "CPL" 8 times in that artical :D ! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	kirdi Last Chance 16:31 9/2/2004	no - mangiacapra was not included because the ranks were determined by success at cpl [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	brenje reSonance 16:37 9/2/2004	Hardly any mention of eoL, and i agree.. there could have been atleast 20 honourable mentions, including liquid. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Undone^ ForsakeN 16:39 9/2/2004	that is an insane statistic! Anyone got any idea how much SK players actually make a year? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Mango 16:43 9/2/2004	I can't wait for HeatoN pr0 gamer breakfast cereal! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Slim 16:46 9/2/2004	its allready out mango you fool get with the times [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Rhyzz Nocturne 16:52 9/2/2004	i dont think some of those 3D players deserve to be there, knoxville should be there too, and marc. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Montaver theb0g 16:56 9/2/2004	Hate to agree with Rhyzz, but I dont think thats an accurate ranking either [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Chris0 16:59 9/2/2004	honourable mentions are just so the 3D players get a mention since ESEA is mainly 3D organisation. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ssj 17:06 9/2/2004	johnny R [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Coopsy Landed 17:09 9/2/2004	ssj [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Atemi ForsakeN 17:12 9/2/2004	seems thorin got his facts wrong and potti told it how it was on the comments [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	SFAL^Sarge Viva la! 17:15 9/2/2004	look @ the rankings, it doesnt matter if u think x > y its all gone on CPL success, dont get me wrong cause id put liquid pretty much in the top 5 of that ranking on skill, but not on CPL success seems fair enough to me, im sure the rankings would be differently if it was on "skill" with some kind of ranking like 1 v 1's won x v 1's won , % of headshots per kill etc .... but its not so stop fvcking whining u stupid bellends :> [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Chris0 17:16 9/2/2004	lol Atemi didnt spot that Potti 2/9/2004 at 9:01 am EST nice one , but thorin should do abit more research next time , the lineup that won babbeges cpl in usa the first time was me (potti) medion , cogline , litzer , hyb . heaton dident join up untill a few mounths after that , and he dident attend to cpl cologne eather , otherwise we would have won [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Blitz Editor UKTerrorist 17:27 9/2/2004	"blitz has gone over bored with those magical 3 letters "CPL" 8 times in that artical :D !" Except the fact that five of em aint mine, and one refers to the article name. Which leaves me with a respectable two :) For those saying liq hasn't won a CPL, I already said that in the news post. My point was...he's done more (in my opinion) than the likes of kane (yes, I know he's won one). [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Blitz Editor UKTerrorist 17:27 9/2/2004	and, agreed chris0 [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	`NWA 17:41 9/2/2004	He keeps mentioning his rating system but he never actually says what his rating system is. I assume it's average placing, but a better method by far would be to give points for each placement - say 20 for first through to 1 point for 15-24th or whatever it is. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	MonkH 18:10 9/2/2004	Ten Of The Best - CS CPL Players nar its lets suck sk arse more like wot has heaton done as a player since that 5v1 eco? nothink? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	gand 18:25 9/2/2004	nothing much except winning bout 4 cpl tournaments and finishing 2nd in another 2 [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	darkst0rm the demonic radicals 18:39 9/2/2004	yeah not much really [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	SFAL^Sarge Viva la! 18:43 9/2/2004	100x more than Monkh? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	commentmaster 18:45 9/2/2004	heatons sol [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Weebull 18:53 9/2/2004	So according to Potti's comment, he really deserves the top spot over HeatoN. As for the article, the trouble is, it's going by individual success, but it's a team-based game. Therefore, since SK have dominated the game for 2-3 years, with a fairly stable line-up, all their members are going to end up on that page. A ranking based on skill statistics would be much more interesting, and allow for much more debate. :) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Smittins 19:13 9/2/2004	Written by Thorin; no doubt the spelling and grammar is terrible, and you have register or pay to view it! Don't think I'll waste my time :) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	dbz 19:15 9/2/2004	Heaton rocked in 1.1 > 1.3 when it was all about skill now its more tactical smart players r best in world ie element [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	MonkH 19:28 9/2/2004	i said personaly lol he didnt win it on his own... fags lol [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Otis Rush! 20:04 9/2/2004	written by thorin? ignored [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	N3M- endeffect 20:19 9/2/2004	" but Duncan "Thorin" Shields, one of the most respected names in e-sports coverage" [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Del` Sniper's Alley 20:29 9/2/2004	Would pretty much agree with the top 10, though not sure about Hyb being above fisker. Liquid should definately have got an honourable mention though. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	m!lky fluid element 21:12 9/2/2004	marcs a bellend anyway, and I hope your readin this. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Chris0 21:27 9/2/2004	milkyway kid [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	p0ng! 21:37 9/2/2004	o0 [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	fsk twisted Reality 23:04 9/2/2004	wot an utter pile of w**k [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	fsk twisted Reality 23:09 9/2/2004	but smittens better know as luke to his friends, its a great read as you realise you are better than 1 more person in the world :D [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	HeNdie Void 23:31 9/2/2004	potti > heaton [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Dudeman 07:01 10/2/2004	i taught marc cs and the birds and the bee's [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ONE\|Strikes 17:44 10/2/2004	dbz 19:15, 9/2/2004 Heaton rocked in 1.1 > 1.3 when it was all about skill now its more tactical smart players r best in world ie element lol Heaton is still amazing and probably smarter then alot of peeps.. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Fest 18:49 10/2/2004	Hmm maybe Liquid should have a mention as we all know he probably best player in the UK.. but saying that the UK hasnt exaclty done as well as we would have liked at cpl events really, (has it?) so when u look at the top 6 teams world wide thats a bit hard to fit 30 players in top 10, tho i do agree that he did deserve a mention as it was said he has been very consistant, unlike some who havent always been around [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]

	Blitz Editor UKTerrorist 15:46 9/2/2004	(This was an automated post) The guys over on E-SEA have released the first article in their new 'Ten of the Best' series. As you'll have guessed from the headline, this one focuses on the top ten CS CPL players of all time. Everyone you'd expect to see there, is there, from the likes of HeatoN and Medion, to elemeNt and XeqtR; they're all there. None of the 4K lads made the list of ten, though Dark and Xenon are in the 'honourable mentions' list. Unsurprisingly, the list is dominated by Swedes, and only one of the top ten is from outside Scandinavia...KSharp, of course. Here's a snippet from the HeatoN verdict: "The alpha male of competitive Counter-Strike. Simply put the most successful Counter-Strike player of all time beyond a shadow of a doubt. Out of 12 CPL attendances 10 have resulted in victories, that's an insane statistic and one which is unlikely to be matched anytime soon unless the legendary HeatoN-Pott1 combo splits up. His CPL victories have won his teams over $200,000 in prize money. To put that in perspective: that's twice the total prize purse of the next CPL event. HeatoN has won CPLs in 6 seperate countries ensuring his name is always on the tip of every Counter-Strike fan's tongue when CPL time comes." Although he's not won a CPL, surely Mangiacapra was worthy of an honourable mention? For consistency at the CPL level, if nothing else. Anyway, you can catch the full article over on their site. In other community news, Core E-Sports have continued their recent run of interviews, by catching up with Holden, from top US clan, Forsaken. Read the whole interview over there. Source: SoGamed [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Pimpboy feo 15:49 9/2/2004	the "hounourable mentions" section could of been filled by at least 20 ppl including mangiacapra but i suppose they had to draw the line somewhere [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Blitz Editor UKTerrorist 15:52 9/2/2004	this is true, but he's more deserving than some listed...mind you, I'm v biased :) oh, and recon, it's not actually, which is why all the various news sites are only reporting it today. The date says the 6th, but it's not been there since then :) [Edited by Blitz at 16:07, 9/2/2004] [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	alicat! 16:08 9/2/2004	Dont know about mangiacapra, but I think Xenon was worth a top 10 place. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Genics thed0n 16:12 9/2/2004	why they always say heaton is the most sucsesfull player ever. surely potti has won exactly what he has? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Katori Choke 16:14 9/2/2004	Written by Thorin, no wonder Liquid isn't included, bloody born again Scandanavian. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Blitz Editor UKTerrorist 16:15 9/2/2004	Genics, I think he says their records are identical, except from CPL Holland where Heaton's team won it, and potti could only manage second with his :) lol katori [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	w00kie euthanasia 16:16 9/2/2004	haha [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Genics thed0n 16:17 9/2/2004	potti is better anyway! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	w00kie euthanasia 16:17 9/2/2004	personal oppinion :) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Seaweed 16:20 9/2/2004	potti never gets mentioned cos he's black. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Blitz Editor UKTerrorist 16:21 9/2/2004	except he did get mentioned, eejit. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ReCoN^ 16:29 9/2/2004	i didnt actually mean it was old i just said that for the sake of it [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Alk0r 16:31 9/2/2004	blitz has gone over bored with those magical 3 letters "CPL" 8 times in that artical :D ! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	kirdi Last Chance 16:31 9/2/2004	no - mangiacapra was not included because the ranks were determined by success at cpl [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	brenje reSonance 16:37 9/2/2004	Hardly any mention of eoL, and i agree.. there could have been atleast 20 honourable mentions, including liquid. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Undone^ ForsakeN 16:39 9/2/2004	that is an insane statistic! Anyone got any idea how much SK players actually make a year? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Mango 16:43 9/2/2004	I can't wait for HeatoN pr0 gamer breakfast cereal! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Slim 16:46 9/2/2004	its allready out mango you fool get with the times [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Rhyzz Nocturne 16:52 9/2/2004	i dont think some of those 3D players deserve to be there, knoxville should be there too, and marc. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Montaver theb0g 16:56 9/2/2004	Hate to agree with Rhyzz, but I dont think thats an accurate ranking either [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Chris0 16:59 9/2/2004	honourable mentions are just so the 3D players get a mention since ESEA is mainly 3D organisation. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ssj 17:06 9/2/2004	johnny R [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Coopsy Landed 17:09 9/2/2004	ssj [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Atemi ForsakeN 17:12 9/2/2004	seems thorin got his facts wrong and potti told it how it was on the comments [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	SFAL^Sarge Viva la! 17:15 9/2/2004	look @ the rankings, it doesnt matter if u think x > y its all gone on CPL success, dont get me wrong cause id put liquid pretty much in the top 5 of that ranking on skill, but not on CPL success seems fair enough to me, im sure the rankings would be differently if it was on "skill" with some kind of ranking like 1 v 1's won x v 1's won , % of headshots per kill etc .... but its not so stop fvcking whining u stupid bellends :> [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Chris0 17:16 9/2/2004	lol Atemi didnt spot that Potti 2/9/2004 at 9:01 am EST nice one , but thorin should do abit more research next time , the lineup that won babbeges cpl in usa the first time was me (potti) medion , cogline , litzer , hyb . heaton dident join up untill a few mounths after that , and he dident attend to cpl cologne eather , otherwise we would have won [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Blitz Editor UKTerrorist 17:27 9/2/2004	"blitz has gone over bored with those magical 3 letters "CPL" 8 times in that artical :D !" Except the fact that five of em aint mine, and one refers to the article name. Which leaves me with a respectable two :) For those saying liq hasn't won a CPL, I already said that in the news post. My point was...he's done more (in my opinion) than the likes of kane (yes, I know he's won one). [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Blitz Editor UKTerrorist 17:27 9/2/2004	and, agreed chris0 [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	`NWA 17:41 9/2/2004	He keeps mentioning his rating system but he never actually says what his rating system is. I assume it's average placing, but a better method by far would be to give points for each placement - say 20 for first through to 1 point for 15-24th or whatever it is. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	MonkH 18:10 9/2/2004	Ten Of The Best - CS CPL Players nar its lets suck sk arse more like wot has heaton done as a player since that 5v1 eco? nothink? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	gand 18:25 9/2/2004	nothing much except winning bout 4 cpl tournaments and finishing 2nd in another 2 [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	darkst0rm the demonic radicals 18:39 9/2/2004	yeah not much really [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	SFAL^Sarge Viva la! 18:43 9/2/2004	100x more than Monkh? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	commentmaster 18:45 9/2/2004	heatons sol [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Weebull 18:53 9/2/2004	So according to Potti's comment, he really deserves the top spot over HeatoN. As for the article, the trouble is, it's going by individual success, but it's a team-based game. Therefore, since SK have dominated the game for 2-3 years, with a fairly stable line-up, all their members are going to end up on that page. A ranking based on skill statistics would be much more interesting, and allow for much more debate. :) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Smittins 19:13 9/2/2004	Written by Thorin; no doubt the spelling and grammar is terrible, and you have register or pay to view it! Don't think I'll waste my time :) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	dbz 19:15 9/2/2004	Heaton rocked in 1.1 > 1.3 when it was all about skill now its more tactical smart players r best in world ie element [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	MonkH 19:28 9/2/2004	i said personaly lol he didnt win it on his own... fags lol [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Otis Rush! 20:04 9/2/2004	written by thorin? ignored [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	N3M- endeffect 20:19 9/2/2004	" but Duncan "Thorin" Shields, one of the most respected names in e-sports coverage" [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Del` Sniper's Alley 20:29 9/2/2004	Would pretty much agree with the top 10, though not sure about Hyb being above fisker. Liquid should definately have got an honourable mention though. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	m!lky fluid element 21:12 9/2/2004	marcs a bellend anyway, and I hope your readin this. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Chris0 21:27 9/2/2004	milkyway kid [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	p0ng! 21:37 9/2/2004	o0 [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	fsk twisted Reality 23:04 9/2/2004	wot an utter pile of w**k [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	fsk twisted Reality 23:09 9/2/2004	but smittens better know as luke to his friends, its a great read as you realise you are better than 1 more person in the world :D [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	HeNdie Void 23:31 9/2/2004	potti > heaton [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Dudeman 07:01 10/2/2004	i taught marc cs and the birds and the bee's [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ONE\|Strikes 17:44 10/2/2004	dbz 19:15, 9/2/2004 Heaton rocked in 1.1 > 1.3 when it was all about skill now its more tactical smart players r best in world ie element lol Heaton is still amazing and probably smarter then alot of peeps.. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Fest 18:49 10/2/2004	Hmm maybe Liquid should have a mention as we all know he probably best player in the UK.. but saying that the UK hasnt exaclty done as well as we would have liked at cpl events really, (has it?) so when u look at the top 6 teams world wide thats a bit hard to fit 30 players in top 10, tho i do agree that he did deserve a mention as it was said he has been very consistant, unlike some who havent always been around [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]

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