New HLDS Problems

Posted by Velta at 18:53 7/5/2003.

Following the recent HLDS upgrade people have begun to notice problems in relation to hitboxes / lag. A statement was made in regards to the issue at CAL League forums. It is said that MetaMod is causing problems with hitboxes, whilst the new HLDS is causing lag on its own.

An interview with Divine was posted on GotFrag in regards to the problems. You can find the interview here.

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reddy
gameSlave
19:45 7/5/2003
atari jaguar tbh [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Grom^
19:47 7/5/2003
f***ing metamod, knew it was the problem from the start.. I DID, HONEST

let's hope BY servers become all nice again after they fix it [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
reddy
gameSlave
19:48 7/5/2003
o_O [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
reddy
gameSlave
19:49 7/5/2003
wtf do you mean 'again' [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Grom^
19:50 7/5/2003
they're good sometimes :/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Zeke
19:53 7/5/2003
joy. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
reddy
gameSlave
19:55 7/5/2003
can you pass that my way please? Although there are mass servers they are populated by muppets. You can never go a game without a cheat in there, a 10year old threatening you with your life via coms or some ponce TKing you at spawn.

BY servers were never fun and never will be. I only play there if im stoned and i want to look at the textures on the wall.

GG THX :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
polaris
church
20:11 7/5/2003
rofl reddy, pretty accurate that is :D. But beats jolt anyday. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
edd
20:12 7/5/2003
nah not really accurate at all [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Nazg0l
fightclubclan
20:13 7/5/2003
yeah i never liked the by/jolt servers... i prefer finding some random clanserver and p***ing off the admins. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Grom^
20:13 7/5/2003
so call an admin :D

we can't be everywhere at once but i reckon we're better than most places... #bycsadmins is the place to go. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
reddy
gameSlave
20:14 7/5/2003
edd your cool, no really. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
reddy
gameSlave
20:17 7/5/2003
ahh i see it now edd, ive hit a soft spot have i? Your favourite cs server just so happens to be BLUEYONDER #34 (only sound and cool people who think they are heaton can play here)

I dont feel the need to take someone elses name 'admin_needed' is a good player. He seems to be a regular player on them BY servers. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
polaris
church
20:18 7/5/2003
pretty accurate apart from the cheating part i'd say, rest of the things happen regulary when i'm playing there [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Dev
theb0g
20:18 7/5/2003
reDDy your cool, no really. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Weebull
20:20 7/5/2003
saw something about this on esreality. first and only time i've ever used the news bar on clanbase. :o [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Genics
thed0n
20:22 7/5/2003
have always thought wwcl f***s the hitboxes, but havnt people been aware of this problem for a while? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
SunShip
20:26 7/5/2003
rofl
metamod is third party and it prolly aint to do with the server update as mm needs to be recoded around the update [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
KarD
Nocturne
20:27 7/5/2003
Blueyonder servers are fine. Metamod hitboxes distortion is minimal at best and infact from the demos ive seen it actually helps you hit people? And no the little fish in BY that threaten your lives dont say it on comms because theyre too embarrased about their unbroken voices ^^. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
edd
20:28 7/5/2003
lol reddy bang on!! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Rhyzz
Nocturne
20:30 7/5/2003
its noticeable actually, ive shot people in the head so many times in the past few days and they just didnt die.

oh wait, replace 'days' with 'years' and you've got it! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
KarD
Nocturne
20:31 7/5/2003
Pfft dont set me up for an evil comment rhyzz ^^ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
akujii0r
Infinity-eSports
20:41 7/5/2003
this post has nothing to do with wwcl affecting hitboxes
its just a consequence
the problem lies within hl + its "communication" with metamod all mods require metamod ..
but if you read the post you'd know that genics? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ripper
Rush!
20:41 7/5/2003
LOL RHYZZ SEMI-COLON CAPITAL D (stolen)

hehehehehehe [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
reddy
gameSlave
20:55 7/5/2003
i know dev, but you dont have to tell me.

Your views on BY may be different to mine. I feel that when i call someone a 'f****t' on a server that they should take it like a man or in a rare case - woman, instead of running off to an admin and wasting their time trying to get me banned. Also the fact that a 15+ score automaticly lables you a cheater is just hillarious. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Seaweed
21:39 7/5/2003
http://koti.mbnet.fi/nitka

omg!"! wtf"£!! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Velta
Professional Gamer
22:46 7/5/2003
While i found your comment to be quite funny reDDY, im afraid your very wrong about Blueyonder CS. Its actually one of the few groups of servers in Europe which are administrated properly - not to mention succesfully.

TK on there and your likely to be banned for a good while. I got banned from #07 for changing name to 'myg0t' last year - im still banned. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Dev
theb0g
23:37 7/5/2003
I feel that when i call someone a 'f****t' on a server that they should take it like a man or in a rare case - woman

I think you should be a man or woman in whatever case and not call people things like that in the first place. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Grom^
00:31 8/5/2003
velta if you come to #bycsadmins we can probably remove that ban if you can provide an explanation, seeing as it's been so long [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Grom^
00:36 8/5/2003
in fact i've now unbanned your 3053604 wonid as the note on it says you should have been unbanned anyway [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Weebull
01:45 8/5/2003
Yet another reason why LANs are so much better, you don't need all that added metamod+ crap. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
10:18 8/5/2003
best hope they get it fixed asap then ;p [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
10:39 8/5/2003
by probably admin their servers better than anyone, that byabuse.co.uk site is evidence enough, but they r a just a bit overzealous sometimes [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
10:41 8/5/2003
a couple of months ago, many of the new admins were out looking for cheaters, and obviously they spot something that they feel isn't quite right and ban the player without waiting for any further evidence. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Grom^
10:57 8/5/2003
is this on BY Myers?

except for the most blatant cheats we have to get three admins agreeing that someone cheats, and if there is dissension then we often need more than that.

i accept it's possible we could have got it wrong, although unlikely. Is there anyone in particular you think was wrongly banned?

And yes there are different standards on BY servers for things like swearing and abuse, and admin discretion does cause disparities between how incidents are handled by different admins. However you have players like jobbie who I've never seen do anything wrong on any server, and other people who just seem to think the rules don't apply to them. What I'm trying to say is some people have a real problem with not behaving like a prat on any server they are on, and I don't think public players want to play with people like that, no matter how good at cs they are. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
11:04 8/5/2003
by do a great job adminning their servers, just a few months ago, i remember many ppl complaining and witnessing some admins banning players without any real solid proof. It led me to believe that perhaps the admins were looking for cheaters rather than spotting them. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Grom^
11:27 8/5/2003
a lot of times I might pop on a server to see who someone with an abnormally high score is, or just check out their aliases instead. It's good to check though without knowing who someone is and judge if they are/aren't cheating. 90% of the time the guy is clean and often when flicking through the other players I will see some really s*** player with an aimbot. Cunning wallhackers are tougher to spot.

BLinky wasn't hard to spot but I still took a whole map's demo and asked for confirms before I banned him.

Most bans on BY are still team killing and team wounding. Best things to do are always apologise, don't retaliate and don't muck around with your friends by teamkilling each other... as it's quite common for that to result in a ban, remember even killing a friend can unbalance a team and ruin a round. Most admins will reduce your ban if you ask politely...

o and be warned, spotting is against the rules on BY, and new policy is a 2-4 week ban for spotting with permanent ban for second offence. It's hard enough to spot the really canny wallhackers without people on LAN or teamspeak muddying the waters. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
fez
15:01 8/5/2003
have to say by is still my prefered place to play. especially by7. altho the standard there isnt always that high u do tend to see a couple of good players on there from time to time.

admining there is also quite good, accidently twed some1 on by7 the other day. every round from then on this player tw/tked me :/ changed my name to admin_needed and a couple or rounds later an admined joined and kicked/banned the player. thumbs up :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
GaZ-
15:14 8/5/2003
by7 suks now i can remember like 8-12 months ago u couldnt get through the dd on aztec as t now u can quite easily stroll through it and take 3-5 noob ct's [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Dev
theb0g
15:24 8/5/2003
no GaZ- only pros like you can do stuff like that. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Weebull
15:40 8/5/2003
I wish I was GaZ-. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Grom^
17:45 8/5/2003
must have been his time in bdw with all the other pros which made GaZ- so good at playing BY7.

and trolling every single thread on UKT with some amazingly uninformed comments - wp! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
GaZ-
18:12 8/5/2003
rofl grom ur s*** plz shh o i see ur in gltc didnt my clan bone the s*** outta u noobs? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Weebull
18:46 8/5/2003
pcw ownage! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Grom^
19:15 8/5/2003
oh no GaZ is owning me on ukt, save me

go back to being s*** and being in OaL, GaZ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
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