New Map: de_contra

Posted by Myers at 13:45 29/12/2004.

News at the moment is incredibly thin, thus the real challenge is to spread it as far as possible. UKT fan favourite, Midway, reports on the latest map to make the CAL playlist. The creators of de_contra asked Midway for his assistance in creating a map ideal for competitive play.

The map forces both sides to consider tons of possibilities. One of the first glaring problems a person sees is the sheer number of entrances into each bombsite. Bombsite B alone has four entrances while Bombsite A matches with another five entrances. That’s a lot for any CT team to cover, but upon further review, that’s not the case.

One entrance for each site is through the CT spawn, two down - seven remaining. Now the middle of the map that overlooks a dried out riverbed can control two more entrances if a player(s) can avoid being picked - five remaining. Finally, four of those entrances are only big enough for one or maybe two players to enter through allowing flashes and smokes to dominate.

Now if you’re reading this and haven’t seen the map your probably thinking, jesus this must be CT sided. Actually it’s probably Terrorist favored according to play and most people’s estimation. Action; reaction - strategies from each team begin drooling now.

Whilst CAL have already adopted the map, it will be important for the map to be played in European competitions if it is to become a standard CS map for clan games. History has thus far condemned the majority of non-official CS maps into forgotten junkyardom, will contra fare any better? I urge you all to at least give it a try or read Midway's full report.

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Listy
TrickShots
14:07 29/12/2004
YES #1 [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
14:08 29/12/2004
congratulations.

I'm actually pretty impressed with the map, I was running through it earlier, trying to visualise how it would play out, and it could be quite exciting. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
georgeda
14:08 29/12/2004
yawn ^^^^^^^^ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
yates
14:08 29/12/2004
er go you

anyway, not impressed by those 2 screenshots. it looks kinda boring. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Weebull
14:09 29/12/2004
Sounds overly complicated, like so many "competetive" maps they keep coming up with. You don't need 5 entrances to a bombsite just so it's not like cbble. Just make them in smart, useful places. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
14:09 29/12/2004
and Torn looked awesome, but that was pretty bad, don't just a map by it's screenshots. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
yates
14:11 29/12/2004
torn rocks! :D it's all about turning the grav up and playing on the rooftops. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
georgeda
14:12 29/12/2004
all we need is a dust2 only tournament.
sod other maps :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
14:14 29/12/2004
i think one of the UKT LANs, 3 or 4, I used only 4 maps, train, inferno, dust2, nuke. People preferred to use cobble and aztec too, so didn't work out. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
SCEE|Sarge
14:30 29/12/2004
only maps worth competetive play at current :

dust2 - train - inferno - nuke - cpl_mill

i guess 1-2 more would be good, although look at other games, all games have their favourite maps :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
w000kie
14:37 29/12/2004
Sarge is right, Cbble is an awful map i hate it with a passion :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
johnson
14:37 29/12/2004
its decent, theres a well with a sewer type thing, if the Ts plant a you can just jump down the well adn theres a current in the water that sweeps you off to the base of the other bombsite, looks cool too and theres plenty of hiding places for CT's :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
nixoh
enamor
15:19 29/12/2004
For it to take off here CSGN really needs to adopt it, replace prodigy and using dust2 twice for Strike and Contra [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
St3al7h
Collective
15:26 29/12/2004
i like cpl_fire as a map as well as ones sarge said, cobble is alright but far from the best but the more maps the better i think, aztec is good apart from it killing fps, prod however should never be pld anywhere ever again. new maps always struggle to take off cus we dont like change, no one wants to learn new stuff thats why people moan about cs updates and say they are gonna quit everytime something changed [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
mebR
15:28 29/12/2004
i ran around the map for a while, looks like it has potential, easily a better map than aztec or prodigy. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
prawn
15:33 29/12/2004
I doubt the map will catch on having played it, it's fun on public but too large and obscure for match play. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
KungFu
15:40 29/12/2004
i HAAAAATE aztec, this looks liek a aztec beater.

But why are they making maps for 1.6, if cs:s is the way forward in some ppls view? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
eoj
15:46 29/12/2004
any uk servers running this do you know? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
MonkH
15:51 29/12/2004
5on5 de_contra [new cal map] have server [+ map dl link] ! 1st time playing it ! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
prawn
15:53 29/12/2004
Why not post a column to go with your post here and shoutbox entry MonkH. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
eoj
15:57 29/12/2004
kungfu pm me on irc, nick = eoj !!!! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Mu1e
RemOte.uK
15:59 29/12/2004
should add aztec over cbble [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
callous
Specster
16:00 29/12/2004
dust2 needs to get axed and replaced by something cpl_ have made :[

nuke/train/cbble/fire/mill/inferno are good maps

strike is ok and this one might be ok [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
MonkH
16:13 29/12/2004
rgr prawn [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
16:18 29/12/2004
d2, nuke, inferno, mill, cobble

Train, awful. Absolutely awful.

Aztec's more worthy of clan games in its current version but n@rby felt the need to remove visibility options and the like which has left aztec as largely a public map.

Fire, please...

This looks like it could be a worth addition, but ultimately it'll be down to people testing it and seeing [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
dL
Atari.Crew
16:22 29/12/2004
yes callous !!!!!!!!

how comes all these new maps that are being made are always big and complex? soooo stupid

ArE tHeY sPoNsOrEd By CoMpLeXiTy? LoL [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ripper
Rush!
16:26 29/12/2004
fire is amazing [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
tinker
16:40 29/12/2004
nuke/d2/inf/fire

new map looks alright :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Az
RemOte.uK
17:11 29/12/2004
looks aint everything, you GAMERS sould know that. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Champion
In The Zone
17:20 29/12/2004
jst had a pcw on this map and it plays well, alot of tunnels etc but it was a nice fun map for a change [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
matto
17:32 29/12/2004
lol Az. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
KaM
17:35 29/12/2004
train is a brilliant map.. so much potential for multiple defensive setups & organised fakes & co-ordinated grenade usage

fire is ridiculously bad, especially for T stuff, can do some stuff as CT but as T its just go to this chokepoint or that one

good maps to play & make strats IMO are (in order) nuke, inferno, train, dust2, mill, cbble (takes a lot of practice to can play it properly but I like it anyway) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
MonkH
17:36 29/12/2004
hes making a cs:s version kungfu maybe well see this at summer cpl? :D

current version of cs:s tho is rather s*** [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
callous
Specster
17:48 29/12/2004
fire is good, d2 needs to get de_leted [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Spetznaz_1
17:54 29/12/2004
Lots of people hate cbble because it requires TEAMWORK to win. OMFG imagine that!

Fire is a good map. Lots of posibility for the Ts to do fakes and rushes.

Prodigy is just DIRE. Why it was played in CSGN i have no idea. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
bl1nded
18:20 29/12/2004
contra looks alright
pld it and its not bad [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ColdAsIce
ImaGine
18:24 29/12/2004
Strike is an excellant map and should be replaced for prodigy imo.

I will give this a try as well :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Venomous
BLACKLiGHT
18:44 29/12/2004
had a quick run around, nice map, might be too big for some impatient pr0gamers though. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
tinker
00:28 30/12/2004
i like cbble! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
daveeee
05:01 30/12/2004
New map could be good... I'm all for adding more entrances to a bombsite, especially with the new timers in place.

Wookie was just angry about inferno cos we killed his lot on it... (or was that another wookie, so bloody many on IRC) :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
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