TheXGC PromoLeague Week 2:1 Results

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	Ripper Rush! 22:25 22/2/2004	watched landed/noc game, really nice play from landed as CT. Gideon the legend shines through again. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	rd theb0g 22:26 22/2/2004	looks like some good games! noc got beat down! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ObZ^ 22:27 22/2/2004	gg all [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Chris0 22:28 22/2/2004	I will be sending a maths tutor to SCEE for coaching :) great performances! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Atemi ForsakeN 22:29 22/2/2004	(This was an automated post) Well a very eventful night in TheXGC PromoLeague with a number of incidents worth reporting. Firstly the results from Week 2:1 looked like this: nocturne 3 - 13 Landed coX 12 - 12 SCEE NoNeed 7 - 13 noLimit UniCon had the night off after earlier in the evening Lastchance unfortunatly decided to drop from the league. nocturne took a beating from Landed which started 30 minutes later than scheduled, and with their eventual 5th having "no sound and m". Straight after the game m0rph was apparently "kicked", presumably for not turning up for the game, only for this decision to be reversed moments later. This is what Rhyzz had to say regarding the matter: "We still have a few problems to sort out, but they played well. GG and gl to them" Next up saw what was definitely the most tense and exciting game of the night. SCEE and coX both went into the game looking for their first wins, and neither found it. But judging from the scorebot the match had it all, eco round wins, TK's and serious "clutch" play to win rounds. Last up saw NoNeed and noLimit battle it out which eventually ended in another victory for noLimit who continue their impressive start to the season. Finally the decision on whether to replace Lastchance is in discussion and should a replacement team be annouced, then it will be within the next couple of days. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Coopsy Landed 22:30 22/2/2004	gg.. alright lee? :P [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	StrideR^ 22:31 22/2/2004	wp all xxx [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	[z]Fred zebras 22:34 22/2/2004	dunno why anyone takes Al on except clans like SCEE who dont take s* seriously, it seems that whenever hes in a team he only half gives a s* bout CS, quite rightly as its a s*** game! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Magic^ 22:35 22/2/2004	Gg pals! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	MadSpunk Last Chance 22:42 22/2/2004	wp Landed keep it up :D [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Krispy 22:45 22/2/2004	first he doesnt go to WCG then he doesnt turn up to a match! wots the ceeeeraazzzy cat m0rph gonna be upto next! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ObZ^ 22:49 22/2/2004	not turn up for training ???? omg thats 1 step too far ! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Rhyzz Nocturne 22:54 22/2/2004	gg to landed, they pld well, nice solid CT side. We got a few rounds at the end but it wasn't enough to keep us going. nice to see SCEE doing better too! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Marcus calibre 22:56 22/2/2004	let is all out rhyzz, we know ur FURIOUS [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Atemi ForsakeN 22:57 22/2/2004	yeah DK even c**ky enuff to tk twice, to lure cox into a false sense of security [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DK Stalk Confront Engage Eliminate 23:00 22/2/2004	4 times, I TK in the previous official vs S7G. I blame the tablets I'm on! Though it was a sweet shot on munk on inferno. We know that boy takes a bullet easy :D [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ht unicon.cs 23:00 22/2/2004	Very nice landed wp! Ul Noneed :x [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Rhyzz Nocturne 23:05 22/2/2004	lol im stewing inside but i'd rather not show my true colours until my actions don't reflect noc's reputation...if that makes any sense :P [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	a1ex^ 23:07 22/2/2004	since when did nocturne have a reputation ? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Pimpboy feo 23:13 22/2/2004	well pld SCEE things starting to happen over at your camp which is good to see. wp the rest [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	StriKeN unicon.cs 23:18 22/2/2004	bit of a shocker result that, nice job landed [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DK Stalk Confront Engage Eliminate 23:22 22/2/2004	Not really, infact we're well behind where we have been. We playing stupid, making silly mistakes and making every game hard work and 13-11 losses and s*! Main reason is we aint enjoying cs atm, we never really prepare any tacs. Just play pcws and enjoy the game, but as seaweeds column shows. The game is full of s* and I admire him showing what I think is a majority of players using to get an advantage online. Look at CSGN impose this screeny anti cheat thing. Then you have dodgy clans and players NOT uploading!?! So why bother i sour thinking atm. Even the leagues aint clean. We have hacking anf configging still as large as ever! Least back in the zetor days, everyone was DL'ing ppl cfgs. I was more even balanced then. Now the respectable players/clans trying to use set rates/cfg to keep it even as if it was LAN, and the little pricks are cfging it up! Without a doubt CS is at a point where in the UK it can take a step forward and several clans progress and start to tackle the euros. These little p* ant cfg'ers and hackers just holding it back in their need to be wannabe pro's Instead of just taking it naturally and gettng better. Kids these days want everyting yesterday! f*ing game needs an age limit!! rant away Paul, not like you have any dignity in UK CS scene anyway. May aswell make yourself feel better :D [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Columbo RemOte.uK 23:23 22/2/2004	well played landed!! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	HeNdie Void 23:25 22/2/2004	Rhyzz is level headded, i rekon noc could go far, as this i just one of the reasons. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Pimpboy feo 23:26 22/2/2004	yer i know what you mean DK but im just saying that a little of the old SCEE grit and determination is starting to come back into your game and i think its only a good thing that the old school clans start showing the kids why they have a good reputation [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	w1cked Croydon 23:33 22/2/2004	Turk1sh > Rhyzz OH OH OH [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Undone^ ForsakeN 23:37 22/2/2004	wp landed :D + SCEE :} [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	fsk twisted Reality 23:44 22/2/2004	how noc!!! fs.. ul... Paul holding back is good :o just showing he wont lower himself, cos theres no need really, even though its completely true wot DK is saying. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ExistenZ 23:56 22/2/2004	i always knew landed were better than rhy.. i mean noc! Never mind we still luv ya paulie! kiss kiss hug hug. let it out dude your among understanding friends ukt is boring when people dont let there true feelings out! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Necroboy fightclubclan 23:59 22/2/2004	I think there is some paranoia about the whole thing DK is talking about though. I know Im alot more critical about dodgy stuff when it happens from an unknown clan. But then, if you look at it, most of the clans that people on ukt and fcc think are "dodgy" are made up of 13-16 year olds, who post on this site and who dream of attention and acknowledgement for thier "skill". Thing is, if there really are so many unknown clans getting good, why havent we seen many new clans in the "pro" community. With the amount of great unknown clans fcc have played, there should be atleast 5-10 more clans who can compete at UKTs/csgn premier/i-series/landed etc. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	RH Landed 00:04 23/2/2004	i think most little c***s start cheatin tryin to get known like kritikal who showed he can play ok without cheats aswell i.e people like smiles who have 100% cheated online in pracc wars but who will still prolly play well on lan [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	St00piD Intrigue 00:14 23/2/2004	there are some clans that are coming up, but its so hard to actually get into the top divisions of these leagues without any arselicking etc. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	cobbeh fluid element 00:18 23/2/2004	i think its just a matter of sayin no to playin against people you think will or might be dodgy, there are enough decent//legit teams around nowadays in the UK that can make it possible to have a few exclusive priv pcw channels about that actually stay private. If you dont do that then why not just play Euro teams, and if you dont do that then play yahoo pool with me, its more fun! lol [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	FLOOiD 00:18 23/2/2004	To be fair I think with smiles and dream they sort of made us all paranoid so any clan which did well you were like hmmm dodgy. I know after I wrote that article in smiles on comms I went like "bs bs bs". Took me a while to calm down and stfu. It's just getting out of the "I can't beleive I lost to this clan they must be dodgy" mode and just "fair play". [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	St3al7h Collective 00:24 23/2/2004	UK cs has changed just the same as cs has changed everywhere else, I remember when online cups were the making of a clans reputation, with clanbase being the place to make a name for yourself… now you don’t get a mention if you don’t attend lans, sadly there are always going to be skilled clans that choose not to lan and as long as that is the case there will always be accusations of cheating, a lot of the uk cs community is elitist and up its self and wont take new clans seriously unless they prove them selves on lan because sadly uk cs has been overrun by abusive cheating teenage pricks that seek attention and long to be accepted and will cheat and bend the rules in anyway they can to obtain this so unless you get a good rep at lan, the "pro's" dont wanna know ya [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	RH Landed 00:34 23/2/2004	i think its easy to tell a cheater from a good player [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Rhyzz Nocturne 00:41 23/2/2004	top foreign teams wouldn't dream of playing these UK teams, therefore our teams who are 'upcoming' dont get the experience they need to become a top team. Its a viscious circle...if you aint well known, you aint got a hope of getting nowhere :( [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	FLOOiD 00:50 23/2/2004	I think the only way we could sort this out would be for the top players from the top clans helping out the community by looking for people who they think config or hack and instead of causing a flamewar like helping them out. It's just whether any of them can be arsed to help out. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Necroboy fightclubclan 00:54 23/2/2004	FLOOiD you smoking weed? What we need is some parents to beat some sense into these f***ed up kids. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ColdAsIce ImaGine 00:57 23/2/2004	Not everyone falls into the category of once a cheat always a cheat :/ [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	FLOOiD 00:59 23/2/2004	It's not just the kids who cheat. What do you class as a kid anyway? I class as 16 or under. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	RH Landed 01:00 23/2/2004	flooid i think most of these players that come from nowhere are aged as young as 11 - 15 kids like that adulki and that geezer from that m4 [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Magic^ 01:03 23/2/2004	its hard to get quality sides to pcw for a new team but not impossible ... alot of new teams expect too much and fold because everything they want doesnt drop into their lap [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	teamx 01:11 23/2/2004	apart from u coldasICE [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ColdAsIce ImaGine 01:15 23/2/2004	:*( [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Sunman^ 01:47 23/2/2004	Noneed pros boned again.How long before you f***ing call it a day. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	BelleH Rush! 01:52 23/2/2004	WP landed WP noL [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	-Naz- fightclubclan 03:14 23/2/2004	why should noneed call it day just cos they lost? nice attitude [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	StriKeN unicon.cs 03:15 23/2/2004	what p*es me off is how our clan has been on the verge of folding because of being dicked by some random unheard of clan. i don't like seeing my clan mates (and myself) SO wound up about how much of a waste of time CS is... and on the verge of giving up because, either we're getting s* and getting dicked on... or little kiddy clans are wasting our time by cheating against us. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	RoadKill meatyballs 03:19 23/2/2004	On the other side of the coin, there have been a fair few clans "FCC + UKT community" alike have assumed to be dodgy and have been proved very wrong. Simply because two - three players have a good game at the same time within a clan doesn't make that clan completely filthy! Just means that they may require further scrutinizing beyond a point. Hell, FCC plus others have "targeted" some rather comical individuals for critisicsm before now including, laughably, myself - so in my view, have almost a jokable opinion as anyone else with regards to "being able to select cheats" [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	fsk twisted Reality 03:42 23/2/2004	i blame the parents! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	RoadKill meatyballs 03:57 23/2/2004	I blame Team-UK\|Demo....everyone saw what he could do at a young age, owsting the mighty Rhyzz from the team, anyone else from the age of 9 up could have thought they could have managed the same at first glance! <insert sarcasm where neccessary> [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	fsk twisted Reality 05:02 23/2/2004	:/ [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Realf1re 05:06 23/2/2004	Why would we call it a day? we was playing with 2 mercs?? tbh at the end of the day only game in cs that actually matters is at lan, who gives a f* for online. As DK said full of cheating cks like sW and ezekiel. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Realf1re 05:07 23/2/2004	btw not hinting noL cheated gg wp to noL :> <3 [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Dudeman 06:53 23/2/2004	haha. ul noc! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Jolleh Team56 07:13 23/2/2004	The girl i love, she got long black wavy hair [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ObZ^ 07:28 23/2/2004	i gotta be honest, i havnt played any1 cheating within a month or so, its all about being a great pcw finder ! :P [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	PFCalcio THX 08:47 23/2/2004	Speaking as someone not involved in the top echelon of playing - but an interested observer, I think there is a huge need for a forum for youngsters to shine. Although the cal-draft thing fell on its arse, i thought it was a nice chance for unsung players to play with decent players and show what they can do. To illustrate my point - we had a kid in THX who was amazing online and then went to LAN (i17 i think) and was equally brilliant irl. Because he was playing with us old codgers with reactions dulled to the pace of a particularly dopey sloth we did bugger all in tournaments (online and LAN) so he never even got noticed. I think there is a very real need for an 'adopt a kid' week where some of you old hands could take a look at some of the youngsters - watch demos to make sure they don't hack and then help them find a clan at their level rather than let them get bored or, even worse, resort to cheating to get some acclaim. Just an idea - but I'd love to see some players come through and start ousting all you cynical old pr0s who would rather be playing football/shagging/working than play cs any more :) Cheers Pat [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Bard- 09:03 23/2/2004	Its very hard to judge someones skill without a lots of experience at the top level. Also - Realf1re, you have to care a certain ammount about online leagues/tournaments, unless u have a good record of LAN competition. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	RH Landed 09:26 23/2/2004	only cheaters ive played latly is zeikl.mix that mo and wilizi cheatin and zm1 olamoum [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	RH Landed 09:26 23/2/2004	o yer but i was ok for wilizi and mo coz they admited it after haha waste of space [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	PFCalcio THX 09:26 23/2/2004	It isn't hard to see someone's skill - it is hard to see their temperament. Like someone pointed out it's a vicious circle. Unless someone tries to break it then the top clans are closed shops, which not only isn't healthy for quality but also breeds frustration and, in some cases, hacking. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Flavas Game Dimension Online 09:30 23/2/2004	you always was a better WA obz [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	w1cked Croydon 09:42 23/2/2004	Why do people need to be known anyway? Just make a clan with some friends and have fun, CS is only a game! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Necroboy fightclubclan 09:43 23/2/2004	Who have fcc wrongly accused? and when have we accused you? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	RH Landed 09:47 23/2/2004	YO flava flav yo! :PpP [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Bard- 09:55 23/2/2004	The top clans arent closed shops. A clan has to prove their worth first, before the top teams will consider playing them. It also take a bit of PR, money, and generally a nice attitude. The UK scene has been left behind a bit, but over the past few months its rapidly improved. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	PFCalcio THX 09:55 23/2/2004	Of course people want to be known. Isn't that what UKT is all about? Playing pub football on a Sunday is fun, but it doesn't mean you don't want to make the local papers when you do well. For the majority (inc. me) stick to mates' teams and enjoy, but there are people who are good enough to be playing at the top level who aren't. Is there anything wrong with embracing new players (in a non sexual way) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Shaw 10:33 23/2/2004	in regards to all this young players and helping them, and why they dont get a chance.... if you look at most top 20 uk sides now, you'll find theres quite a common age range... we've all been playing 2,3 or even 4 years ish so havent just appeared... so as the games gone on these teams have grown older... and because we aint going at every night to train hard and go pro, we'd much rather play and have a laff with people around our age... im 19 in july, and im the youngest member of 2seXeh, why wud we want some little 14 year old squeeking down a mic at us, then coming to lan and asking us to buy him some cider from the bar... no offence to all the little people :P When your younger the best thing you can do, get a group of friends, play some cs, make clans etc have fun.. wait till u hit 16, then most of the clan doors will start to sway a bit at least :P [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Magic^ 10:37 23/2/2004	i dont agree with this at all really yer there are some good unknown players .... but not that many else it would surley be easy to form your own clan and work your way into being a top team. fact of the matter is people always think they are better than they are [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Hairy Rush! 10:39 23/2/2004	well done SCEE.. always seem unlucky towards the last few rounds for some reason. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	PFCalcio THX 10:42 23/2/2004	Young players don't have the maturity to run a clan. And they don;t progress if they play with older lads who play just for fun because they don't take it seriously. I'm 26, work and use cs as something to fill in the odd gap when i'm bored and there's nothing on telly. UKT is something i find entertaining as a break from footy when i'm at work. For younger people who are good and want to do well it is very hard to get a chance to play for (or even against) a good clan and therefore progress properly. I just like to see younger players given a chance. It stops the game from stagnating. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Abdo 10:43 23/2/2004	A couple of things; 1. In about the last 8 months nearly 1000 phone exchanges have been upgraded to ADSL/Cable. That's a hell of a lot people who could potentially have been playing for years on dial-up (eg. me, still) who can now mix it with the big boys. You might not have heard of them, but that doesn't mean they're dogs*** newbies. 2. CS isn't a very hard game to win by luck if you have a reasonable amount of positioning. The number of times people lose the first 5 rounds and leave is ridiculous. I suggest people look for actual evidence of cheating rather than just the fact they're getting dicked on. My point is, what's the reason for thinking you're automatically better than someone else? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Bard- 10:53 23/2/2004	All top clans, in the past, have been formed through friendship (NiP for example). [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	darkst0rm the demonic radicals 10:54 23/2/2004	it really dont matter, if theyre that good they'll get noticed sooner or later. who cares, just a game [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ColdAsIce ImaGine 10:57 23/2/2004	Although I agree about lame clans/mixes leaving it only takes one player to cause that not the whole clan :S [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	HeNdie Void 11:04 23/2/2004	cold u really are a fat geek. Some of you need to chill and remember its only a game. Took me quite a while to realise, better than never realising like some of you guys tho. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Flavas Game Dimension Online 11:06 23/2/2004	y0 RaNdOm_HeRo YO. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ColdAsIce ImaGine 11:09 23/2/2004	rofl wtf hendie hope that was a joke ¬_¬ [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]

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