CS Sniping

What is Sniping?
Is Sniping the same as camping?
Available Sniper Weapons
Sniping Effectively

What is Sniping?

The word sniping was derived from a small bird not native to this country called the 'Snipe'. It was extremely fast and a very experienced marksman was required to hit it. People hunting this bird were consequently called snipers.

In the modern day the role of the sniper is to give accurate fire at extreme ranges. Most missions involving snipers are oriented around search and destroy or assassination scenarios. For these reasons snipers are generally extremely stealthy individuals who are able to conceal themselves in any environment for long periods of time. While their missions are vitally important, another key role of a sniper is their ability to completely de-moralize the oppositions army with perhaps just one sniper incident.

Is Sniping the same as Camping?

Quite simply, no it is not.

Camping is when someone sits in a spot where they feel no one can see them and staying there for long periods of time until someone has the misfortune of walking past them. This pasttime is best suited to newbies as this activity rates lowest in all of the cheap kill methods.

Sniping is the art of positioning yourself in a way that overlooks a point where you feel the enemy will appear at great distance away. Due to the un-effectiveness of the sniper rifle for CQC (close quarter combat), snipers very rarely stay in one place and will relocate to other positions they know after each couple of successful sniper shots.

Available Sniper Weapons

Arctic Warfare/Magnum

Pros

The AW/M has massive power and pinpoint accuracy enabling numerous one shot kills at long-range.
It makes an extremely pleasing boom when it is fired that can be heard by anyone close by which in turn makes many a player run for cover.

Cons

The AW/M or 'cannon' as it is frequently called is a bolt action weapon, which means that a round needs to be re-chambered after each shot. During this time you lose scope vision and so cannot aim at the enemy thus making you very vulnerable while reloading.

Overall

The AW/M is often shunned as being a newbies weapon which in it's own way is perfectly true. A newbie with very little skill can pick it up and get a few kills. However, the weapon is actually more suited however to the professional sniper, given the right position and map the sniper can take out an entire enemy team or just simply stop the enemy from moving down a certain path, i.e. the ramp on de_dust.

Steyr Scout Rifle

Pros

Pinpoint accuracy at long-range.
Quick magazine and round reload time.
Reasonable power, 2 shot kills.

Cons

Not enough power to stop a man in tracks without a solid head shot.
Bolt action-requiring loss of scope vision.

Overall

This is a poor sniper weapon. While it is fair to say that a decent sniper should be able to hit a man's head frequently enough to make the scout worthwhile, it is far more sensible to take the AW/M so that the chest area can be fired at which is far easier.

H&K G3/SG-1 and the Sig SG-550 Sniper

Pros

Pinpoint accuracy at long range (with first shot).
Multiple shots can be made quickly.

Cons

The weakest power ratio of all the sniper rifles.
Accuracy drop after first round.

Overall

You will either love or hate these weapons. They are quite pricey but you get what you pay for. I feel these weapons are most suited to the long range sniper who is only semi competent and doesn't feel they will hit the targets' head first time round. Therefore they will require the need to fire off another 19 or 29 rounds. On the other hand, it's a good choice for a sniper who will encounter targets at mid range and in large numbers.

Positioning

Positioning is one part of Counter-Strike that you are either going to be good at or you are going to suck at. All veteran CS players will have played most of the maps for large quantities of times. During this time they will have figured out which is the general way for the enemy to come from, which way the enemy will expect you to be and over what ground the enemy will advance. Once you know this you can look at the locations available to you. Now you can, on certain levels put yourself in a blindingly obvious place. For example, the roof on cs_militia. Now even if you are a reasonably competent shot you will get a couple of kills. The only problem lies with the fact everyone expects people to be on the roof. Please say hello to the counter sniper who will mingle with the assualters. He then watches you kill his mate, then proceeds to take your own virtual life. So in general the position you should take on a level depends on your style of play. Below is a list of the many types of sniper I have encountered and the generalized method of play for that role. After the description of the different sniper roles a list of the likely positioning is given.

Defensive
Defensive (solitary)
Offensive
Stealth

Defensive

This type of sniper is a team player. He will advance with the rest of his buddies until he reaches his destination (Sniper Perch). Here he will sit and allow his teammates to move forward firing off snap shots at anyone unfortunate enough to advance on the main group. Once the group has reached a relative point of safety he will advance forward to a position further forward of his present. From this position he can then give more covering fire to his teammates. This overwatch fire will only end when his team-mates enter a position such as a building, The sniper will then camp it out outside waiting for anyone trying to outflank the main group.

Defensive (solitary)

The sniper in this role is certainly not a team player. The main objective of this sniper is personal glory alone. Most of the shooting is done on a purely ego driven motive i.e. a shot will only be made if at the opponent's head when they are facing the other way or they are doing something stupid like reloading. Humour is a key point to many snipers -most have some sort of curiously irritating habit before they make a kill (I personally type in my target's name before I take them out). This sniper however is less challenging than most as they will not leave their position. They may pretend to run and hide, but they return 2 seconds later... and BANG. The defensive sniper going for personally glory will not leave his position until he is dead, or the entire enemy team has been killed.

Offensive

This is very much my sniper role so it will be the most detailed description.

The offensive sniper is a team player to a point but will not be satisfied without a large kill count himself so while he/she will support fellow team members they will not sacrifice themselves to save another player. In actual fact they will allow that player to be gunned down, then sit in wait for the killer to show his face, reload or pick up the weapon of your dead friend.

The sniper will advance with the assualters occasionally actually taking point. The snipers main asset is his ability to use cover and his fire time. As soon as a long range threat shows itself the sniper rifle will come into hand and an immediate snap shot will be made. The sniper will also know all of the possible sniper positions and will draw out the weapon and zoom in at a known spot then quickly move into a position able to see it.

The main thing to remember when facing this type of sniper is that they won't look like a sniper. They will be charging around killing like the rest of the team. And if the sniper sees you remember that a semi average players average fire response time is 3.5 seconds. That means it takes them 2 seconds to zoom in on you and then just over a second later if their aim is elite for you to die. So on other words if you don't kill him straight off you will more than likely die. In actual fact you are lucky this type of sniper can be the easiest to kill. As they lose the advantage of distance with being up front. Sadly for all those non-snipers out there most Offensive Snipers are only playing offensive because they are very good. So you will probably die anyway.

Stealth

This is my other highly amusing sniper trait. It annoys the hell out of an entire team when an enemy sniper manages to sneak round the back of an entire team, sets up position and then starts beating the enemy in the back of the head. By the time the enemy figures out the fires coming from behind half the team has hit the floor and the sniper has run off to a new position. There is no real defence against this type of player. They will sit round the back of boxes (camping you might say) listening to every sound and watching their radar. Once a number of enemies have run past they will make their move towards the enemy start zone dispatching stragglers on the way. The sniper will walk almost everywhere never making a noise and making use of every bit of cover. Once at your start a nice perch will be found preferably one which overlooks the now advanced enemy forces. Now the fun begins, the enemy has to play hide and seek with an elusive crack shot sniper.

As for the positions of this sniper... you're screwed. Unless you bother to run around and look in every possible camper spot you won't find them. And chances are if you do run around looking at them all the enemy assualters will gun you down.

Styles

Once you have picked a style which most suits your ability and personality, practice it.
Join an Internet game and practice that style. Or better still practice them all and see which one gets you the most frags or you enjoy the most. Remember that if you are not enjoying the way you are playing you will not kill much due to a lack of motivation.

Choosing your Perch (sniper spot)

As I have already stated, snipers are not campers. So don't pick a spot that only lets you see a tiny section of the map, unless of course you are down to pathetic amounts of health and all your team-mates are dead. Know the maps. Know the general route of the enemy and then pick a spot that overlooks and that doesn't have too many loopholes that the enemy can come round at you in. Basically finding a decent spot is just trial and error. Find a spot that you like and stick to it.

The spot you choose also depends on the people you are playing. For example on cs_militia if you have no respect for the enemy's long range skills at all, sit on the roof right in the middle where they can all see you and proceed to kill them all as the exit the tunnel.

Movement

The below only applies to the team players who will assault with their mates. This part of the manual is essentially just a general assaulting guide for the entire game. Also includes some shooting strategies (originally made for Ravens RS Guide).

General Counter Strike Tactics

Know all the Counter-Strike maps full. You should know these as you have obviously played all of them (if you haven't hang your head in shame).
Always have a mission strategy for the levels. Don't just free ride them. If you're in a team make sure they know where you're going to snipe from and get them to help you.
Take a suitable weapon. A sniper rifle is not always practical unless you are very cocky.
Stick in groups, having one guy with you at least is a great asset (even if it just makes a bit of fodder).
Don't try to take on all of the enemy players if its obvious you will only down a couple of them in a room, instead call for backup and then just make the first shot.
Don't underestimate the guns. I can do very well using just the p228 or the needle gun. A round to the head will knock most men to the floor first round.
Always keep firing till the man drops.
Never simply run away. Run backwards facing the opponent and let rip with whatever you have. Or run away giving suppressing fire then find a convenient spot to stop and ambush.
Always remember to slag off the enemy after every kill. Annoying them makes them play worse.
Finally don't get cocky and tell the team how good you are. It puts everyone's backs up and they all try to annihilate you (even your own team). Also if you die accept it. Don't blame it on lag or luck. If you have lag you simply play around it. Fire in front of a target and jump up shoot at the man then duck back down. Two-three seconds later he will fall. If you stayed there for two-three seconds later you would probably both be dead.

Team Play

The veteran asshole will play the game on his own leaving the rest of the group when assaulting. What I consider to be the elite are the veterans who know the importance of team play.

Checking in with any reports on the enemy is vital for the success of a clan as you all need to know what the enemy is doing. If you see an enemy but can't get a clean shot tell your clan and get someone else to wipe them out. Also tell the clan when you kill a man as it lets your team know how many are left.

Please understand that when a man screams "Cover Me" he doesn't want you to watch him die then shoot the guy who killed him. Give either supporting fire or suppressing fire. To support make sure you can see everything. The average player will zoom in on the assaulter. You can then pound him with rounds till he falls. Your man then lives and can continue the attack. Suppressing fire is when you know where the enemy is. If you have a full auto keep thumping about 2-3 rounds every two seconds into the scenery or above or next to the hidden player. This means he will not show his face and your guy can throw a grenade to meet him.

Firing

This is dependant on the weapon you are carrying. For this section I will assume you are using an assault rifle or an SMG. Basically the key to this is getting to know your gun. The different guns respond in different ways. At medium to long range the m4 is very good when used in small bursts. The ak47 however will be pathetic if you kept doing bursts. For the AK you fire 1-2 rounds repeatedly. Never at a rate of over about 2 rounds a second. Never stand still while attacking. Jump around and sidestepping round them in 360 arcs. The most important fact is to keep your head as high as you can. Do not crouch as it exposes the top of your head and if the other guy jumped he will easily tear into it.

Raven's Personal Tips

On any medium range map such as cs_italy etc use the ak47 to snipe. Trust me and keep that finger firing single rounds until you see the enemy drop. When facing head to head with an opponent if it's a surprise to both of you don't try and back off firing. Leap straight at the enemy's head shooting downwards into them. Never get cocky. You can never be too good. Think about it logically. I consider myself to be an elite player but if I was playing myself using my tactics I could find floors in them and wipe myself out. So bear in mind their is always flaws to your strategy and your opponent may pick up on them.

Basic Movement

The movements you make in Counter-Strike whilst assaulting will have a dramatic affect on your standard of play. I would recommend playing the whole of Half-life as it gives you a good background to the in game physics of CS and should improve your coordination in game i.e. you won't be one of those people whom everyone laughs at as they try and jump up on the market roof on cs_italy.

When going across open ground always keep moving as you never want your head to stay still. Jumping is very important especially if you get really up close and personal with the enemy. It makes your accuracy worse but you gain the advantage of surprise and speed. It also raises your head making for a harder head shot.

Using Cover

While running always make good use of cover but don't cling to it like a baby. It may give good protection but bear in mind if no one can see you, you probably can't see them (with certain exceptions). Try to use cover as a leading point for an attack. Run and hide behind it but then jump round and hammer the opponent.
Never sit tight for too long or you can expect a frag.

Defensive Dig Ins

Get to know your maps and get to know the times it takes to get to certain points. By knowing this you can establish the furthest that you can move on a map at the start of the game before possibly meeting up with the enemy. This allows you to move unhindered and directly to your destination that you have chosen to defend should you play that way. Now make sure you have a team mate with you while defending as it allows more tactical opportunities i.e. one man can cover a door with SMG fire while the other hurls a grenade. Also bear in mind one thing when deciding a defend point, it's all very well having one way into a building that you can easily defend due to the one entrance but if no one can get in bear in mind should things go tits up you can't escape either and you will probably die by a grenade so to speak.

Camouflage

Now this one is fairly simple to anyone with a brain and shouldn't take a lot of explaining. For a start pick a model class that suits its environment so for a snow map, choose to go as the guerilla warfare model. Sounds stupid but a lot of people don't bother.

Now that offers you a little camo but what we really need to know is what the enemy is going to see of us. By this I mean what is directly behind you as the enemy looks. Here is a small list of pointers to remember:

Do not put yourself where you are silhouetted against the sky as you stick out really badly. So don't sit at the top of the tower with the sky above your head. You will be seen and you will die.
Use darkness to your advantage if you can. Keep still and wait.
If you can, the best way of being undetected is using a decoy. If you have a good mate playing with you make him pummel a load of rounds at the enemy down a highly visible passage. Tell him that when the gun runs out of ammo from the first clip wait for the click click noise then throw the gun at the enemy and let them see it. Now make him turn and run down a passage you are covering, bang bang.
Make sure the wall behind you mixes well with the camo that you are wearing, if not move.
If you are in a window where the enemy can be below you, don't pull out your sniper rifle till you see the enemy as it is a real give away when there is a 2 meter long rifle sticking out of a window.
Don't move if you see a large formation of enemies. They may not have seen you. But the moment you move their eyes will be drawn to the movement.

Firing

This is probably the most important aspect of any wannabe sniper's skills. Now most people in the world have the same reaction time so there is no unfair advantage there. People do not however have the same reflex time and this is what is key to being a sniper. If you have slow reflexes, it's bad luck. You won't be a sniper so go back to assaulting using a shotgun.

Where to aim

Below is a guide of where to aim before you see the enemy and where to aim once your aim is true.

Now to explain my shooting preferences. First of all the scout lacks a kill on any other part of the body so take your time over the shot and aim for the dead centre of the head. With the semi autos take less time over the shot simply start firing. If after 3 rounds you have missed the head aim bit lower and finish him off in the chest.

Lastly the AW/M does not require a head shot to kill so don't worry about it. Aim for the dead centre of body mass as you see it i.e. aim for the heart.

Where to aim before you see the target

This one will take a while to get used to and will take even longer to master but it's what makes the difference between a good sniper and an average sniper. Most importantly at most times you will need to keep your crosshair where you believe the enemy will appear and be ready to make a quick snap shot. Now the main thing to learn is the difference between going for true aim as I call it, going for a snap shot or going for a static shot.

True Aim

For this, once you have sighted the enemy bring your cursor onto the target and lead on your kill zone by about 4 inches (CS world inches) to compensate for a miss shot. Now count the number 1 in your head…. And on this "one" you wanted your cursor to be on your target now continuing to lead the target counting in seconds again exactly one second after you imagined your first count, count again… only this time fire exactly on that count. This one seems odd and its hard to explain but its all about the timing of the shot but is the most accurate way to kill the target. Best suited for a target moving horizontally at long range and preferably that hasn't seen you.

Snap Shot

The aim of this shot is pure and simple, speed. There is no lead on the target at all and you certainly don't have time to count. Once you see the enemy or possibly as soon as you have zoomed in you have to gauge the approximate mouse movement that will draw your scope over the target. Now you don't hold it over the target and aim at all. The mouse is drawn at the target and the shot made the moment the scope moves over the centre of mass or kill zone for that target.

Static Shot

This method of shooting is best suited for a sniper covering a doorway or for the sniper who is almost dead and has chosen to cover a very small area of ground. Now this method of shooting is as it sounds. The scope should not move at all apart from maybe a very small adjustment. You sit and you wait for the target to move past your POV and into your scope reticule and at this point you take them down. This one is best suited to snipers with fast reflexes. This is the way of shooting where you will have to pay most attention to where to aim (defined below)

Also what I have recently been proving down my local LAN centre is that players that think they are good by avoiding your shots by random and quick sidestepping can now die even easier.

As they start sidestepping make an immediate static position on them. Now don't try to re-adjust on them and within about a second they sidestep back over the crosshair making a very easy kill.

Where To Aim

Ok so you now know where to aim at the target and a good way of doing it. Now you need to know where to aim when there is nothing to shoot at. This is key in particular to static shooting.

This is one point of sniping that will take a long time to master as every map is different and I can't tell you where to aim on all of them. Where to aim on large open areas of ground is obvious as you aim where you know the enemy will emerge. It's other more simple places that make a sniper good. For instance any door… For my example lets imagine you are on cs_italy in the hostage building upper level looking down the ramp. Where do you aim?

Imagine that this is the entrance to the ramp down outside the market. You keep the scope levelled just next to the wall on the side of your choice. Your choice should depend on which side of the entrance you think the enemy will come from. For my example I think the enemy will come from the right hand side so have aimed as far left as I can. This way when the enemy does its traditional jump across the opening to have a look I can take them out… and I get the longest possible time between seeing the enemy and having to make the shot. If the enemy should try and run straight up on the right side a quick snap shot should take them out and then revert to my static shooting.

General Shooting Tips

With the semi automatic sniper rifles fire off 3 rounds from the gun. The reason for this is that the first few rounds are not accurate. If you do not believe me start a game on dust buy the gun and zoom in at a distant target (spray an image). Now fire 3 shots with 1 second between each round. The first round did not hit true. Now try it again.…oh joy.. it hits home first time. This also applies at the start of the game with any of the pistols that you are using. Trust me.
To get the most kills remember that you can screw the sniper rifle and pick up an assault weapon if the enemy say won't leave a room. Or if you are cocky take your pistol.
Remember that as a Sniper no one likes you. No one likes a sniper, especially the enemy and this works in your favour. Sniping pisses off the enemy which in turn makes them play worse.
Never assume no one can out snipe you. So keep an eye out for counter snipers.
In a lot of places you should keep your rifle on first zoom, especially if it allows you to cover two doors. Only use second zoom once you are going for a shot.

Ravens Personal Tips

This is simply a list of sniper perches that I like to use and general information.

If you can always team up with another sniper as you will work far more effectively.
Always be prepared to listen to other snipers advice. It may not work for you but it's worth giving it a go.
Keep your assaulting skills up as well as your sniper traits. It's always handy to be able to pick between the 2 to really piss off your opponents.
Always use the sounds around you to help you. If you can here a couple of people walking up to a passage you are covering let the first one come in then when the second one appears shoot the target that’s behind the first. If you have a good position he won't have seen you and will turn round assuming there is someone behind him. Now do the all-time low and shoot him in the back.
Never get too cocky with your scout. If you miss their heads you will just piss them off.
If you have hit someone and they are running after you don't switch to your pistol. Instead turn a corner and then timing is everything. Do the unexpected and charge back at the opponent. Get right up close and fire. If you have hit his chest once already a shot to his upper torso will finish him off.
Never get annoyed when losing. This will in turn make you play even worse. The game is meant to be fun and if it isn't then you should join a different gaming community.
When round the corner from the enemy and you have been very stealthy up till now for gods sake don't re-load for those extra 3 rounds. The enemy will hear you and either charge your incompetent ass or throw a flash round followed by an HE. Both are a quicker way to death.
Remember that by using team members as footstools you can get to very interesting sniper perches.

How To Become An Elite Sniper

Now no one likes to be hit by the AW/M. It's a one shot kill and many people say it requires no skill to hit someone from long distance. Frankly I disagree to a point. Obviously some newbies get kills at long range with them and that's annoying. But it's part of the game so accept it. But even more humiliating is to be taken out by an Arctic at very close range.

Most veteran players have seen people assaulting with an arctic and often it is very humorous and they should simply be laughed at as they charge to their deaths. You play a quality player however, you may not laugh so hard as you get nailed through the chest.

What I describe as the elite are players which assault forwards and at very close range on first zoom are able to dispatch assaulters. There are many of the same strategies as used when normal assaulting but with a few differences. Below I will try to describe how to do this activity!

If you are not a very skillful Sniper don't even bother trying this. You will die!

At the start of each level you need to be off fast. For my example text imagine that we are Counter-Terrorists on de_dust. Now charge forwards with your arctic and as long as you are not playing frequent grenade throwers go straight in and move next to the boxes and go to first zoom while continuing to shuffle forwards. Don't move so fast that you lose accuracy though. Now place a static shot about 3 feet in of the right hand wall from the right. As the first assaulter comes round you hammer him in the chest. He should have been dead before he even got a good look at you. Now all this time you should be using your ears. If you can hear only a few footsteps keep going forwards. If you hear the noise like a stampeding herd of large monkeys run back out of the door. If you move forwards your best course of action would be a zoomed jump so that you land smack in the middle of the tunnel facing outwards to the enemy. Now a quick snap shot onto anyone there dispatches another. Now regardless of whether there is someone there or not always keep moving or you will die. Eventually when you can do this competently on any map you will become a highly respected player. This tactic is very deadly when playing one on ones. One shot, one kill, one round won.

This tactic is not as useful in a team game as there is lots of friendly players everywhere and try as you may you will not be able to stop them getting in front of you. And with a zoomed weapon at very close range you lose all vision and can only see a big blue ass through your scope… The question is whether you should ACCIDENTLY fire or not!

Comments

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	Blitz Editor UKTerrorist 12:17 10/3/2002	Nice work mate, very in-depth....great read though. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Fluke Official Capybara Herder UKTerrorist 12:20 10/3/2002	Ja. ;) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	The Oracle Lord of t3h b0ys UKTerrorist 13:04 10/3/2002	Reading guide.... Falls asleeep cough Wha-? Yeah, I'm a awake... Nice guide, so damn long it just about covers everything. :D [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	[LGD]AznFalkon 14:36 10/3/2002	Nice guide... i got a question though, if you get someone on the head with the Steyr Scout, but they have a helmet, will they die? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Elem 14:52 10/3/2002	I was glad he picked up on the different types of shot, which is what most people havnt even considered. What he calls 'True Aim' is impractical however, but the other two are right on. A bit too theoretical at times, but some good stuff in there nevertheless. Elem [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	TheJay 14:54 10/3/2002	I'm afraid the scout is a lot better than this article made out. It's a lot better than the auto-rifles in 9 out of 10 cases simply due to their absolutely pap accuracy and stutter when firing, especially in Internet games. It would have been better to state that the scout "only takes two shots to kill" - perfectly true for body shots, and trust me, if youre hit by a scout, you should be worried - the next one will be you down. Also its half the price of most of the others. Deagle + scout = b0nage. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	do_do_do 15:06 10/3/2002	yes a scout HS will kill then even if they wear a helmet. and just to make this guide perfect.. the awp is a covards wepon... but the scout is a mans wepon ;-> [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Wickid 15:58 10/3/2002	Thx alot for the great .nfo I´m a newbie sniper (not a newbie CS player in general) This info comes very nucly with my training, thx alot [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	AzNLiLOgE 16:16 10/3/2002	well done [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	lol 17:11 10/3/2002	Hard to find any "floors" in that article. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Mintman 17:16 10/3/2002	Two things: 1. Scout rocks, it's is the gentleman sniper rifle as u have to be good to kill with it [me is Jay52 ;)] 2. Guerilla on a snow map??? Surely it's Artic Warfare? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	UpenG 18:16 10/3/2002	t.y. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	VespR 18:21 10/3/2002	that whole guerilla/snow model is my fault. After reading his draft on my comp he made a few grammatical errors and his text wrote, "For a start pick a model class that suits its environment so for a snow map down go as a guerilla warfare guy pick the snow camo uniform. Sounds stupid but a lot of people don’t bother." I obviously didn't re-read my text, my bad. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Elem 18:31 10/3/2002	Anyone who thinks the scout is worth buying, unless for a mess around, deserves to be killed by an awp, the gun they should have bourght. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Silent 18:58 10/3/2002	Who is Dark Raven? Although its a well thought out article, he misses on several very important points which are required to make the transition from a good sniper to a great sniper, which probally explains why I have never heard of him in the 1st place [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Fluke Official Capybara Herder UKTerrorist 19:19 10/3/2002	Put that handbag away sir! :P [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	[Classic]-Spheric- 19:22 10/3/2002	Nice article, very in-depth. I assumed before even reading them that the comments would have quite a bit of talk about how the Scout is more l33t weapon, because it "takes more skill." I somehow think that the guys saying this play with n00bs most of the time, because if I have the AWP and you have the Scout, I w!11 0wn j00. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	krstf 19:26 10/3/2002	Nice guide.. a little bit of history to.. :> gj.. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	[BON]-LAUGHER 19:26 10/3/2002	Good Jobb!!! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	emfive 20:06 10/3/2002	'What I describe as the elite are players which assault forwards and at very close range on first zoom are able to dispatch assaulters. There are many of the same strategies as used when normal assaulting but with a few differences. Below I will try to describe how to do this activity!' Generally this seems easier than long range imo, you only 2x zoom for QCB while I find if you miss at long range with 4x zoom its kinda disorientating... [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	rizzuh 20:16 10/3/2002	What's with the word 'elite' as used in this article? Can't you just be a good player without being "elite"? I prefer to be called wizardly~! Otherwise a very nice article. Ducking didn't seem to be touched upon (it'll matter in 1.4 more) and the scout was kind of ignored and made out to be worse than it is, but hopefully these tips will help improve my sniping game. Great work! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	`Tha evil Paper 21:10 10/3/2002	Scout is equalent to the Rail in Q3. you can jump and run, yet evry fu*in shot is as accurate as if u cruch.. evil laughter* [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Baldie 21:54 10/3/2002	Actually, with a scout you can easily with some luck take out an AW/M. They should miss one shot, and you just have to hit them twice. You can shoot and hide and jump and shoot, they can't [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Shazknee 22:01 10/3/2002	"Scout is like the rail gun in q3" ?? IMO the ak-47 is the rail gun. Sad to see u didnt include fast zoom shooting in ur article, u know, run around unzoomed, spot an enemy and tab sec fire and prim fire almost at the same time "sec fire first though" so u dont have to bother about aiming with the scope at close range, but the bullet doesnt spray off somewhere, this requires u know where the center of ur screen are though, most times u wont even see the scope when doing this, but the bullet hits center on, the good thing about this really is that u have normal visuability, and still the power of the awp in close ranges. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	unclefu 22:15 10/3/2002	decent article, actually very good article, although some things like "on the right hand side across from the right wall on the right" are confusing. i have to disagree about the scout. sometimes i consider the awp the ultimate p*y gun, but i do realize that it takes skill to use, just like a railgun (q3 > cs!!). the scout is just a nice rifle to kill with cause you can be quicker about it and it doesn't make you look like so much of a wker. but in the end if you're playing in a clan match or just want your frags you're going to take the better alternative which is the awp, one shot one kill 99.9% of the time. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	[CAD]sephroth 22:57 10/3/2002	nice article bro. I have to disagree with you about the G3 and Sig (or as i refer to them as auto scouts). They can be very accurate if you full auto but only after 4-5 bullets.....you need to know how to control the recoil on any gun. Like an AK-47, it can be VERY accurate full auto, you just need to know how to control the recoil. My opinion. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	[wC]strokes 23:31 10/3/2002	wonderful article, my favorite part was how u explained where to stand and aim. i know i will be better after having read this. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	LWF 00:58 11/3/2002	nice article, however your choice in pistol is very important while sniping, im suprised a few pistol tactics werent mentioned, such as the double change and zoom tactic (faster than waiting for scope to come back) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	beaver 02:44 11/3/2002	good stuff... one thing i would like to do is just give you a little trick of my sniper trade. i imagine i fall into the predefined role of 'offensive sniper', so i am usually at the head of the of the pack... which doesn't leave much reaction time. (god bless my dsl ) i am often forced into pulling some crazy, out-of-scope AWP shots, and i have become quite good at them. one trick that helps me and might also help you, my fellow snipers of evil, is a console command that make things slightly different, and might even lean the odds your way. the command you ask? hud_centerid 1. this command makes your teammates and enemies ID (name and status: friend or enemy) appear in the center of the screen. that way when you roll around that hallway corner, crouch, and read ENEMY: iRn00b written in red/blue, you can blast without hesitation. Good luck and []D0//3\|2 2 \|)4 1337!!!!111 [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	rne 06:04 11/3/2002	OK several people already said this, but it's so vital i feel the need to repeat it: THE SCOUT CAN KILL Strafe, shoot, duck, shoot, backflip (OK maybe not backflip), shoot ... the scout is ready to fire accurately whenever. I agree that the awm/p is vital for stopping whole teams at once, but the scout has a much better chance when you're up against a autoshottie rusher who is ducking, dodging, and running. scout ow3ns >;] [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	rne 06:06 11/3/2002	oh yeah - and the autosnipers are worse than useless ... I'd rather snipe with a TMP. ;D [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	KrillinKC 06:14 11/3/2002	i dunno what you're thinking, the scout rules a**. I scouter can take out an AWPer almost always. I once took out 3 AWPers camping in the same place on dust with my trusty scout (i'm not kidding). AWP is made for camping with the rest of your team while the scout is made for rushing AND camping. not only that but it's really really cheap. and you can run really fast with it out. If you know how to use it, you can OWN. OWNNNN!!!! and have money to spare . [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	zHunter 11:38 11/3/2002	If u go back to basics on the AWP vs Scout argument, the AWP requires one shot, the scout requires two. With snipers of an equal skill level, the AWPer will win. You still have to stop before u fire with the scout otherwise the shot goes off target, so it's movement abilties aren't that great. So, an AWP is better, keeping skill levels constant, as it requires one shot, not two [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Arctur 12:35 11/3/2002	Agree with zHunter... In clan wars it is very impotant to kill enemy with first shot (becouse if not, at next second rushing enemy may be will kill some of your teammates with Colt or AK burst fire.... or accurate headshots) So, INHO elite sniper is AWm sniper. And of couse he must have very! good skill with shoting without scope in close combat. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Smittins 13:21 11/3/2002	"This is a poor sniper weapon (scout)" cant say i agree with that, awp is the best followed by the scout, scout is certainly a viable alternative to the awp if u r low on cash [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Chexpir 13:22 11/3/2002	It's the best guide I never read! The best! www.todocounter.ya.st [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Blog 14:16 11/3/2002	Other pros for scout, movement with unzoomed scout is at same speed as pistol!!!! The silence of scout is great as n00bs won't even notice, and even pros might not realise they're dealing with a sniper. scout is also very accurate unzoomed, a little practice and you can get by without a crosshair. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Mimi 18:44 11/3/2002	HAHAAHAAAAAA who wrote that sniping guide???, if i followed that guide it would turn me back into a n00b. Once again, HAHAHAAHHAHAAAAA my word, have u fired a sniper rifle? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	zgodni 22:27 11/3/2002	Nisam bas neki zaljubljenik u snajper i u slonovacu mada je ponekad koristim (vrlo uspesno) ali je text pravo dobar ali pravo. imate pozdrav od zgodni {chamil dopa} [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	chabelo 00:09 12/3/2002	who wrote this guide? what you cant read the name that is at the top.... lamer [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Moonshine 01:00 12/3/2002	i love this guide except i disagree with one thing. I consantly crouch when i fire because it totally increases accuraccy. Ive been able to pull off long range headshots with an ak because i crouched, and i rarely get kiled because when u crouch u become smaller. well thats what i think, thanx for the ideas on sniping. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	bin 01:13 12/3/2002	nice article i would say. but i think you should have made an article fro the steyr scout. all about the scout only. i love the scout, its everybody's gun. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	^DeE^ 01:23 12/3/2002	Scout really rules, e.g. some days ago i killed 3 ppl in kevlars with one shot, that was really kewl.. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	pablo 01:37 12/3/2002	nice try at making a sniping guide, but as usual with cs guides it is no help whatsoever. whatever he said in this article that isnt obvious is either wrong or doesnt apply to cs. he should try making one for day of defeat though, as sniping plays a big role in that mod. Also, I am disgusted by his and all other "elite" players endorsing the awm(awp same thing). any TRUE sniper (me for example =) ) should and would be able to down the enemy/enemies with a scout. the awm is a lamer's weapon, that endorses cheap tactics and hacking (wall hack + awm = instant death.) He goes off on a tangent for half the guide, talking about general cs tactics, instead of focussing on his chosen topic. he even does the worst thing someone giving advice can do, which is telling people what to do in specific situations, instead of in general. But he still deserves credit for a first try (i assume.) he obviously spent some time writing the guide and editing the pictures, and whether that was from his dedication to the community or his lack of a social life, he should not be criticized too hard, no matter how bad it was =) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	pablo 01:38 12/3/2002	and i apologize for the double post [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	biscuits 01:39 12/3/2002	yeap, when u crouch u get smaller, but it also means that u get headshotted(sorry, donno any good word for em ) more easily, and ppl can jump u and immediately get ur head... good guide, got some really good tips [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	rude 01:58 12/3/2002	A good sniping article, but there r a few issues that i would like to mention, such as wether it is better to have high/low mouse sensitivity as a sniper, and also tweaking zoom sensitivity ratio - this prolly comes down to personal preference imo. Also if u tap the use key when moving and/or zooming, it stops u dead in ur tracks making ur shot very accurate. Does no 1 use this technique? 1 other thing; the auto snipers. I find the gsg can b VERY useful indeed, but what stops me is the cost. I bet if it cost the same as AK, people would buy it all the time, actually learn to use it effectively and it would get alot more use. A m8 of mine says the same about the sig sniper; we often have 1 v 1 sniping on lan with me on awm; his sig shots can throw the awm aim off a mile and he has gotten pretty good with it can kill me :> Also if we play public we can give eachother long range suppressive fire which works a charm on levels such as aztec and seige. Oh yeah, i used to think that firing off the first few bullets of pistols (especially deagle) increases the chances of having a regular clip in ur weapon (rather that a clip that just dont hit). But now i beleive this to b an untrue practice as bulletholes r drawn/predicted clientside and are therefore not true. I have killed people with deagle b4 aimin at there head even though the bullethole appeared on the ground. That is all, sorry for long post :> [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	SnipeWhenIneedTo 03:11 12/3/2002	This is a very good article. As a "L33T" sniper myself I found some things interesting while others don't apply to me. With sniping it really is hit or miss like you said, everyone has there way but u should always check out what they gotta say also. Btw I have a reaction time of about 1-2 seconds so i think u should change that or at least add a note. If ur a novice sniper going up againest an elite sniper and both of you are in plain view...then its all about reaction time. just wanted to point that out. Sniping in my opinion is actually 33% aim, 33% instinct and 33% position. keep up the good work thou. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	[DRE]Blade 03:21 12/3/2002	excellent article mate. i agree with the stealth snipers techniques. really great fun to p*** them off, as they look around trying to find where you are hidden and all the time you shoot them from behind. one method i use a bit, is probably what you have called true aim. i find it works really well if you have any idea of the physics of the game. example of the ramp on dust. as T, allow for the CT to come jumping round the corner then nail him as he lands, cos he has no way of avoiding if he comes round the corner like that. surprisingly, another good one for sniping can be office, cos there are some nice midrange passageways, but admittedly, an ak is much nicer for that map, cos if you do get raped from behind, you have more chance with the ak. you can still get one shot kills with ak if you are good, as most of you know, like on awp_map, i know a guy here in hongkong always uses ak or automatic, and gets so many headshots people think he cheats. all it is, no matter what weapon, is practice. and practice teamwork, THE most inportant factor of gameplay in CS. again, excellent article, gives even experienced snipes the chance to think of some new strategies. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Ghetto_yo 03:32 12/3/2002	ok 1st mimi ur stupid, shutup, 2nd this guide is good anyone who is a good sniper knows it, if u think it's stupid... so are u.... 3rd i also think that the scout was underestimated, it's a good gun for it's price, and it does require more skill e.g. u got a scout vs someone wit AWP(i dunno why people call it that but i do so 2bad ) u goota hit em twice, so u goota be twice as good. BUT! AWP's are not p***y weapons (although no1 like to get hit by one(me included)), i mean cmon 1 shot killz, u just cant get better then that . 4th, question: when u crouch do u really get better aim?? 5th pablo: shut up ur an idiot i dont c a post from u on this site u stupid newbie :@ last: how do u do that quike zoom thing??? thats one of the only sniper tactics i dont know(im not an elite sniper, but im above average for all though who wanna critisize me) to conntact me with info i want e-mail me at: ghost_ya_yo@hotmail.com PS good article even though some morons seem to think otherwise [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Dom MD 07:17 12/3/2002	ick. snap shots bad. d i used to do that. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Fa Kyu 07:39 12/3/2002	Yeah. I'm all like. I don't know. You just said it all. Cheers. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	` 10:22 12/3/2002	so for a snow map, choose to go as the guerilla warfare model pld? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	-=LOGOS=- 11:31 12/3/2002	Good work! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	VLADINATOR 13:18 12/3/2002	Good player with AWP can always win a good player with Scout. 2 shoots against 1 shoot think twice before buying. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	[DZ] Pokoinik 13:44 12/3/2002	Very interesting 2 VLADINATOR But good player with Scout can always win a good player with AWP. If it is really good player. Good player needs only 1 shoot from scout. Because he shoot in a head always. And "2 shoots against 1 shoot think twice before buying" not so right. You can kill good player with AWP in one shoot from scout! Have a nice game [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Greyfox 14:35 12/3/2002	Good work.. and I sucks at sniping! It's kinda hard to aim at a moving target! How to aim better? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	-=[A\|S]=-\|\|NiMdA\|.Ex 14:36 12/3/2002	This is a great site and also it has some very helpful comments of how to better in some things like the awp. this tipe of site helps us all to get better in counter-strike. thanx a lot. NiMdA [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ZoRRoLaNd 15:56 12/3/2002	First of all, Snipers play a defensive or supporting role, not offensive, Sniper going point..Plz. They should either hold a defensive position from being rushed or support an assault team. Secondly, Sniping is an ART so if your not up to the task, don't bother. A crackshot sniper can hold an army at bay single-handedly, but on the other hand a crap sniper not only is a risk to himself but to his entire team! Has anyone been Back-doored before??? Also Defensive Snipers should always have at least 1 Backup for CQC. As for AWP Vs Scout, Both are deadly depending on how good a sniper u r, ur technique and your opposition. Long Live CS!!! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	[CA]Banzai 16:21 12/3/2002	Hmmmmm... Very very intresting!!!! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	HA\|[MOC]Steveman 18:23 12/3/2002	It is good. Read it during school. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Six Eyed Smily 18:24 12/3/2002	hud_centerid 1. this command makes your teammates and enemies ID (name and status: friend or enemy) appear in the center of the screen. that way when you roll around that hallway corner, crouch, and read ENEMY: iRn00b written in red/blue, you can blast without hesitation. originally written by beaver i strongly reccomend this, i have been called a cheat sooo many times for it in the past but it is usefull. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Elem 18:27 12/3/2002	The scout is s*. People who use it in preference to the awp, because they think it is better, are insane. On the other hand people who use it over the awp, because they think it is a "true" gun, are newbies AND insane. AWP v Scout. Its a no brainer, the awp obviously. What you scout promoters (insane people) are forgetting is that scout vs any other gun apart from awp is utterly wk. End of story. Thankyou Elem [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	[5thElement] Pure Ev 19:43 12/3/2002	I have had it drilled into my brain by a friend that sniping is a gay past-time on CS. I have on a couple of occasion tired it myself without any success. I hate snipers in general, they kill me because I'm a 56k'er. I tried sniping (with bots) after I read this, and to my suprise, it worked, and i got an amazing score against my bots. i havent tried it only though yet!!!! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	pablo 00:18 13/3/2002	ghetto_yo, i wasnt trying to insult anyone, but i do think the awp should not be in cs. cs is a game where nearly every gun takes 5 shots to down you at at the chest. i do not think there should be one gun that can kill you if it hits anywhere close to the center of your body. i understand the awp is more powerful than the scout, but what you DONT understand is that the awp is only desirable because of its power. Dictionary.com defines a sniper as "one who shoots at other people from a concealed place." the last time you saw three terrorists on militia shooting cts as they came out of the tunnel, were you thinking that the ts were depending on their concealment?? Hells no! the only reason they stay alive is because they kill the cts in one shot. those were not snipers. they were cannons, artillery. im sorry, but the sound of that gun going off does not make me think of the silent, lone sniper that is in so many movies. so f*** off [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Zaphod 01:30 13/3/2002	I think it's a damn good article, except for sayig the scout is bad...i think it's a pretty damn good gun. Yes, the awp Is actually "better", but the best snipers can kick ass with a scout. Also, the two semi auto rifles aren't that bad...they're good if you know how to use them. And when an enemy gets up close, there's no contest...with the awp you cant really hit a thing without the scope, and it's too slow. All in all, it's a good article. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	* 02:36 13/3/2002	I don't think anyone mentioned reloading with AWM. Everyone I play with uses "hud_fastswitch 1" and switches to 2ndary after each shot, then back to AWM. It's faster than reloading regularly..I think. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	rude 04:25 13/3/2002	finally, somone that realises that gsg and sig sniper do have there uses like every gun in cs ;p I find gsg very powerful weapon; 2-3 shots anywhere and dead and headshots arent that hard to get if ur aim is good enuff :> I think alot of people try it once and throw it away never to b touched again - give it time though and u can rock with it - even today i managed to take out all 5 cts on inferno twice with it, being the last man alive. Oh and Scout rocks too :> Really satisfying to kill a whole loada enemies that didnt hear where u were unlike the aw/m which also rocks - but if i wanted stealth rather than stopping power + money to spend, i would opt for scout. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	chronic 05:01 13/3/2002	Good read but mostly all common sense .... Oh ya and by the way !! AWPS ARE LIKE TAMPONS, EVERY p***Y NEEDS ONE !!!! So be a man and use the scout peeps !!!! HAPPY FRAGGING [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Naught 07:25 13/3/2002	And if the sniper sees you remember that a semi average players average fire response time is 3.5 seconds. That means it takes them 2 seconds to zoom in on you and then just over a second later if their aim is elite for you to die. ...LoL? How about 1 second [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Jesus 14:22 13/3/2002	f*** it [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	[$terf]LlaMa-XS 15:12 13/3/2002	Always remember to slag off the enemy after every kill. Annoying them makes them play worse OMFG YOU SUCK, You really suck, your tactics are written for open games/public games, none of them will work in wars. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	[$terf]LlaMa-XS 15:13 13/3/2002	Better luck next time [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	zHunter 16:31 13/3/2002	It amazes me the number of "l33t" snipers that claim that the scout is better than the AWP. I play in the VGA UK national tournaments, and good players use the AWP over the scout simply because it is better. To judge the weapons fairly u have to assume both users are of equal skill level, and then the AWP wins. A scout sniper cannot hit in the head every time, he is much more likely to be able to hit in the chest, so the AWP beats the scout hands down, and this is backed up by the fact that the scout is very rarely used in competition play. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	The_Dark_Raven 23:16 13/3/2002	Hey. Thx for the compliments (and criticism) now to answer a few questions. you havent seen me online because i'm a LAN player.. ( www.planet-lan.co.uk ) and that also explains why i dont notice the auto snipers stutter as you call it as i play with a ping of about 15. About the scout... I'm sorry, but no. Saying that a good scouter against an AWM'er will allways win is absloute trash. Once your are intot that zoom there is no difference between the guns apart from the zoom rate. You take your shot and you hit the target. Now with the AWM doesnt matter if you hit the head. They are dead. So you win, Nuff Said. In say the Clanbase games with clans such as NIP and Nordic Division ...do they use scouts.. I think Not! On a side note if anyone from any Lan centres wishes to Play F3eR the Planet Lan 8 man team drop Evilben a line at www.planet-lan.co.uk Thx. Dark-Raven [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Zaphod 23:27 13/3/2002	Anyone who's being a prick to this guy for his article should just stfu...you don't need to be an ass to the guy . I'f you've got better suggestions then YOU make the article. Or you can grow the f*** up..whatever suits you best. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	The_Dark_Raven 23:54 13/3/2002	Cheers... very subtle mate :P . [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Tunny 10:06 14/3/2002	Very good article .... I've been looking out for something like this for a while.. Anyone can plant themselves down with an awp n frag but to be truely good at it theres a lot to learn .... I've got a few more things to praccy now As for the scout, obviously the awp owns it .... but under certain circumstances on publics the scout is a good purchase. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	fiasco 12:49 14/3/2002	Firstly, i thank you for your time and effort, some things i agree with others i dont, but hey if you could write somethng all of us agreed with, then i would probably be following you around as you healed the sick. As with any advice i took the bits that i thought could help me and left the rest. thnx [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Blog 14:03 14/3/2002	further back i posted that scout's unzoomed movement speed is equal to the pistol. This is why experienced scouters will beat awps. When scout fires, scouter moves too quickly for awp to aim at. An awper who misses will still be slow. Good awpers will still win often enough, but scout will get the majority of kills. Against non-scouters i prefer the awp, because of 1 shot kill... Also, when you hit with awp (see blood) but they don't die, switch to pistol, Coz they're only on 20 health! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]

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	Blitz Editor UKTerrorist 12:17 10/3/2002	Nice work mate, very in-depth....great read though. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Fluke Official Capybara Herder UKTerrorist 12:20 10/3/2002	Ja. ;) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	The Oracle Lord of t3h b0ys UKTerrorist 13:04 10/3/2002	Reading guide.... Falls asleeep cough Wha-? Yeah, I'm a awake... Nice guide, so damn long it just about covers everything. :D [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	[LGD]AznFalkon 14:36 10/3/2002	Nice guide... i got a question though, if you get someone on the head with the Steyr Scout, but they have a helmet, will they die? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Elem 14:52 10/3/2002	I was glad he picked up on the different types of shot, which is what most people havnt even considered. What he calls 'True Aim' is impractical however, but the other two are right on. A bit too theoretical at times, but some good stuff in there nevertheless. Elem [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	TheJay 14:54 10/3/2002	I'm afraid the scout is a lot better than this article made out. It's a lot better than the auto-rifles in 9 out of 10 cases simply due to their absolutely pap accuracy and stutter when firing, especially in Internet games. It would have been better to state that the scout "only takes two shots to kill" - perfectly true for body shots, and trust me, if youre hit by a scout, you should be worried - the next one will be you down. Also its half the price of most of the others. Deagle + scout = b0nage. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	do_do_do 15:06 10/3/2002	yes a scout HS will kill then even if they wear a helmet. and just to make this guide perfect.. the awp is a covards wepon... but the scout is a mans wepon ;-> [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Wickid 15:58 10/3/2002	Thx alot for the great .nfo I´m a newbie sniper (not a newbie CS player in general) This info comes very nucly with my training, thx alot [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	AzNLiLOgE 16:16 10/3/2002	well done [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	lol 17:11 10/3/2002	Hard to find any "floors" in that article. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Mintman 17:16 10/3/2002	Two things: 1. Scout rocks, it's is the gentleman sniper rifle as u have to be good to kill with it [me is Jay52 ;)] 2. Guerilla on a snow map??? Surely it's Artic Warfare? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	UpenG 18:16 10/3/2002	t.y. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	VespR 18:21 10/3/2002	that whole guerilla/snow model is my fault. After reading his draft on my comp he made a few grammatical errors and his text wrote, "For a start pick a model class that suits its environment so for a snow map down go as a guerilla warfare guy pick the snow camo uniform. Sounds stupid but a lot of people don’t bother." I obviously didn't re-read my text, my bad. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Elem 18:31 10/3/2002	Anyone who thinks the scout is worth buying, unless for a mess around, deserves to be killed by an awp, the gun they should have bourght. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Silent 18:58 10/3/2002	Who is Dark Raven? Although its a well thought out article, he misses on several very important points which are required to make the transition from a good sniper to a great sniper, which probally explains why I have never heard of him in the 1st place [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Fluke Official Capybara Herder UKTerrorist 19:19 10/3/2002	Put that handbag away sir! :P [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	[Classic]-Spheric- 19:22 10/3/2002	Nice article, very in-depth. I assumed before even reading them that the comments would have quite a bit of talk about how the Scout is more l33t weapon, because it "takes more skill." I somehow think that the guys saying this play with n00bs most of the time, because if I have the AWP and you have the Scout, I w!11 0wn j00. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	krstf 19:26 10/3/2002	Nice guide.. a little bit of history to.. :> gj.. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	[BON]-LAUGHER 19:26 10/3/2002	Good Jobb!!! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	emfive 20:06 10/3/2002	'What I describe as the elite are players which assault forwards and at very close range on first zoom are able to dispatch assaulters. There are many of the same strategies as used when normal assaulting but with a few differences. Below I will try to describe how to do this activity!' Generally this seems easier than long range imo, you only 2x zoom for QCB while I find if you miss at long range with 4x zoom its kinda disorientating... [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	rizzuh 20:16 10/3/2002	What's with the word 'elite' as used in this article? Can't you just be a good player without being "elite"? I prefer to be called wizardly~! Otherwise a very nice article. Ducking didn't seem to be touched upon (it'll matter in 1.4 more) and the scout was kind of ignored and made out to be worse than it is, but hopefully these tips will help improve my sniping game. Great work! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	`Tha evil Paper 21:10 10/3/2002	Scout is equalent to the Rail in Q3. you can jump and run, yet evry fu*in shot is as accurate as if u cruch.. evil laughter* [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Baldie 21:54 10/3/2002	Actually, with a scout you can easily with some luck take out an AW/M. They should miss one shot, and you just have to hit them twice. You can shoot and hide and jump and shoot, they can't [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Shazknee 22:01 10/3/2002	"Scout is like the rail gun in q3" ?? IMO the ak-47 is the rail gun. Sad to see u didnt include fast zoom shooting in ur article, u know, run around unzoomed, spot an enemy and tab sec fire and prim fire almost at the same time "sec fire first though" so u dont have to bother about aiming with the scope at close range, but the bullet doesnt spray off somewhere, this requires u know where the center of ur screen are though, most times u wont even see the scope when doing this, but the bullet hits center on, the good thing about this really is that u have normal visuability, and still the power of the awp in close ranges. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	unclefu 22:15 10/3/2002	decent article, actually very good article, although some things like "on the right hand side across from the right wall on the right" are confusing. i have to disagree about the scout. sometimes i consider the awp the ultimate p*y gun, but i do realize that it takes skill to use, just like a railgun (q3 > cs!!). the scout is just a nice rifle to kill with cause you can be quicker about it and it doesn't make you look like so much of a wker. but in the end if you're playing in a clan match or just want your frags you're going to take the better alternative which is the awp, one shot one kill 99.9% of the time. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	[CAD]sephroth 22:57 10/3/2002	nice article bro. I have to disagree with you about the G3 and Sig (or as i refer to them as auto scouts). They can be very accurate if you full auto but only after 4-5 bullets.....you need to know how to control the recoil on any gun. Like an AK-47, it can be VERY accurate full auto, you just need to know how to control the recoil. My opinion. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	[wC]strokes 23:31 10/3/2002	wonderful article, my favorite part was how u explained where to stand and aim. i know i will be better after having read this. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	LWF 00:58 11/3/2002	nice article, however your choice in pistol is very important while sniping, im suprised a few pistol tactics werent mentioned, such as the double change and zoom tactic (faster than waiting for scope to come back) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	beaver 02:44 11/3/2002	good stuff... one thing i would like to do is just give you a little trick of my sniper trade. i imagine i fall into the predefined role of 'offensive sniper', so i am usually at the head of the of the pack... which doesn't leave much reaction time. (god bless my dsl ) i am often forced into pulling some crazy, out-of-scope AWP shots, and i have become quite good at them. one trick that helps me and might also help you, my fellow snipers of evil, is a console command that make things slightly different, and might even lean the odds your way. the command you ask? hud_centerid 1. this command makes your teammates and enemies ID (name and status: friend or enemy) appear in the center of the screen. that way when you roll around that hallway corner, crouch, and read ENEMY: iRn00b written in red/blue, you can blast without hesitation. Good luck and []D0//3\|2 2 \|)4 1337!!!!111 [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	rne 06:04 11/3/2002	OK several people already said this, but it's so vital i feel the need to repeat it: THE SCOUT CAN KILL Strafe, shoot, duck, shoot, backflip (OK maybe not backflip), shoot ... the scout is ready to fire accurately whenever. I agree that the awm/p is vital for stopping whole teams at once, but the scout has a much better chance when you're up against a autoshottie rusher who is ducking, dodging, and running. scout ow3ns >;] [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	rne 06:06 11/3/2002	oh yeah - and the autosnipers are worse than useless ... I'd rather snipe with a TMP. ;D [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	KrillinKC 06:14 11/3/2002	i dunno what you're thinking, the scout rules a**. I scouter can take out an AWPer almost always. I once took out 3 AWPers camping in the same place on dust with my trusty scout (i'm not kidding). AWP is made for camping with the rest of your team while the scout is made for rushing AND camping. not only that but it's really really cheap. and you can run really fast with it out. If you know how to use it, you can OWN. OWNNNN!!!! and have money to spare . [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	zHunter 11:38 11/3/2002	If u go back to basics on the AWP vs Scout argument, the AWP requires one shot, the scout requires two. With snipers of an equal skill level, the AWPer will win. You still have to stop before u fire with the scout otherwise the shot goes off target, so it's movement abilties aren't that great. So, an AWP is better, keeping skill levels constant, as it requires one shot, not two [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Arctur 12:35 11/3/2002	Agree with zHunter... In clan wars it is very impotant to kill enemy with first shot (becouse if not, at next second rushing enemy may be will kill some of your teammates with Colt or AK burst fire.... or accurate headshots) So, INHO elite sniper is AWm sniper. And of couse he must have very! good skill with shoting without scope in close combat. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Smittins 13:21 11/3/2002	"This is a poor sniper weapon (scout)" cant say i agree with that, awp is the best followed by the scout, scout is certainly a viable alternative to the awp if u r low on cash [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Chexpir 13:22 11/3/2002	It's the best guide I never read! The best! www.todocounter.ya.st [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Blog 14:16 11/3/2002	Other pros for scout, movement with unzoomed scout is at same speed as pistol!!!! The silence of scout is great as n00bs won't even notice, and even pros might not realise they're dealing with a sniper. scout is also very accurate unzoomed, a little practice and you can get by without a crosshair. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Mimi 18:44 11/3/2002	HAHAAHAAAAAA who wrote that sniping guide???, if i followed that guide it would turn me back into a n00b. Once again, HAHAHAAHHAHAAAAA my word, have u fired a sniper rifle? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	zgodni 22:27 11/3/2002	Nisam bas neki zaljubljenik u snajper i u slonovacu mada je ponekad koristim (vrlo uspesno) ali je text pravo dobar ali pravo. imate pozdrav od zgodni {chamil dopa} [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	chabelo 00:09 12/3/2002	who wrote this guide? what you cant read the name that is at the top.... lamer [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Moonshine 01:00 12/3/2002	i love this guide except i disagree with one thing. I consantly crouch when i fire because it totally increases accuraccy. Ive been able to pull off long range headshots with an ak because i crouched, and i rarely get kiled because when u crouch u become smaller. well thats what i think, thanx for the ideas on sniping. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	bin 01:13 12/3/2002	nice article i would say. but i think you should have made an article fro the steyr scout. all about the scout only. i love the scout, its everybody's gun. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	^DeE^ 01:23 12/3/2002	Scout really rules, e.g. some days ago i killed 3 ppl in kevlars with one shot, that was really kewl.. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	pablo 01:37 12/3/2002	nice try at making a sniping guide, but as usual with cs guides it is no help whatsoever. whatever he said in this article that isnt obvious is either wrong or doesnt apply to cs. he should try making one for day of defeat though, as sniping plays a big role in that mod. Also, I am disgusted by his and all other "elite" players endorsing the awm(awp same thing). any TRUE sniper (me for example =) ) should and would be able to down the enemy/enemies with a scout. the awm is a lamer's weapon, that endorses cheap tactics and hacking (wall hack + awm = instant death.) He goes off on a tangent for half the guide, talking about general cs tactics, instead of focussing on his chosen topic. he even does the worst thing someone giving advice can do, which is telling people what to do in specific situations, instead of in general. But he still deserves credit for a first try (i assume.) he obviously spent some time writing the guide and editing the pictures, and whether that was from his dedication to the community or his lack of a social life, he should not be criticized too hard, no matter how bad it was =) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	pablo 01:38 12/3/2002	and i apologize for the double post [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	biscuits 01:39 12/3/2002	yeap, when u crouch u get smaller, but it also means that u get headshotted(sorry, donno any good word for em ) more easily, and ppl can jump u and immediately get ur head... good guide, got some really good tips [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	rude 01:58 12/3/2002	A good sniping article, but there r a few issues that i would like to mention, such as wether it is better to have high/low mouse sensitivity as a sniper, and also tweaking zoom sensitivity ratio - this prolly comes down to personal preference imo. Also if u tap the use key when moving and/or zooming, it stops u dead in ur tracks making ur shot very accurate. Does no 1 use this technique? 1 other thing; the auto snipers. I find the gsg can b VERY useful indeed, but what stops me is the cost. I bet if it cost the same as AK, people would buy it all the time, actually learn to use it effectively and it would get alot more use. A m8 of mine says the same about the sig sniper; we often have 1 v 1 sniping on lan with me on awm; his sig shots can throw the awm aim off a mile and he has gotten pretty good with it can kill me :> Also if we play public we can give eachother long range suppressive fire which works a charm on levels such as aztec and seige. Oh yeah, i used to think that firing off the first few bullets of pistols (especially deagle) increases the chances of having a regular clip in ur weapon (rather that a clip that just dont hit). But now i beleive this to b an untrue practice as bulletholes r drawn/predicted clientside and are therefore not true. I have killed people with deagle b4 aimin at there head even though the bullethole appeared on the ground. That is all, sorry for long post :> [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	SnipeWhenIneedTo 03:11 12/3/2002	This is a very good article. As a "L33T" sniper myself I found some things interesting while others don't apply to me. With sniping it really is hit or miss like you said, everyone has there way but u should always check out what they gotta say also. Btw I have a reaction time of about 1-2 seconds so i think u should change that or at least add a note. If ur a novice sniper going up againest an elite sniper and both of you are in plain view...then its all about reaction time. just wanted to point that out. Sniping in my opinion is actually 33% aim, 33% instinct and 33% position. keep up the good work thou. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	[DRE]Blade 03:21 12/3/2002	excellent article mate. i agree with the stealth snipers techniques. really great fun to p*** them off, as they look around trying to find where you are hidden and all the time you shoot them from behind. one method i use a bit, is probably what you have called true aim. i find it works really well if you have any idea of the physics of the game. example of the ramp on dust. as T, allow for the CT to come jumping round the corner then nail him as he lands, cos he has no way of avoiding if he comes round the corner like that. surprisingly, another good one for sniping can be office, cos there are some nice midrange passageways, but admittedly, an ak is much nicer for that map, cos if you do get raped from behind, you have more chance with the ak. you can still get one shot kills with ak if you are good, as most of you know, like on awp_map, i know a guy here in hongkong always uses ak or automatic, and gets so many headshots people think he cheats. all it is, no matter what weapon, is practice. and practice teamwork, THE most inportant factor of gameplay in CS. again, excellent article, gives even experienced snipes the chance to think of some new strategies. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Ghetto_yo 03:32 12/3/2002	ok 1st mimi ur stupid, shutup, 2nd this guide is good anyone who is a good sniper knows it, if u think it's stupid... so are u.... 3rd i also think that the scout was underestimated, it's a good gun for it's price, and it does require more skill e.g. u got a scout vs someone wit AWP(i dunno why people call it that but i do so 2bad ) u goota hit em twice, so u goota be twice as good. BUT! AWP's are not p***y weapons (although no1 like to get hit by one(me included)), i mean cmon 1 shot killz, u just cant get better then that . 4th, question: when u crouch do u really get better aim?? 5th pablo: shut up ur an idiot i dont c a post from u on this site u stupid newbie :@ last: how do u do that quike zoom thing??? thats one of the only sniper tactics i dont know(im not an elite sniper, but im above average for all though who wanna critisize me) to conntact me with info i want e-mail me at: ghost_ya_yo@hotmail.com PS good article even though some morons seem to think otherwise [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Dom MD 07:17 12/3/2002	ick. snap shots bad. d i used to do that. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Fa Kyu 07:39 12/3/2002	Yeah. I'm all like. I don't know. You just said it all. Cheers. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	` 10:22 12/3/2002	so for a snow map, choose to go as the guerilla warfare model pld? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	-=LOGOS=- 11:31 12/3/2002	Good work! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	VLADINATOR 13:18 12/3/2002	Good player with AWP can always win a good player with Scout. 2 shoots against 1 shoot think twice before buying. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	[DZ] Pokoinik 13:44 12/3/2002	Very interesting 2 VLADINATOR But good player with Scout can always win a good player with AWP. If it is really good player. Good player needs only 1 shoot from scout. Because he shoot in a head always. And "2 shoots against 1 shoot think twice before buying" not so right. You can kill good player with AWP in one shoot from scout! Have a nice game [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Greyfox 14:35 12/3/2002	Good work.. and I sucks at sniping! It's kinda hard to aim at a moving target! How to aim better? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	-=[A\|S]=-\|\|NiMdA\|.Ex 14:36 12/3/2002	This is a great site and also it has some very helpful comments of how to better in some things like the awp. this tipe of site helps us all to get better in counter-strike. thanx a lot. NiMdA [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ZoRRoLaNd 15:56 12/3/2002	First of all, Snipers play a defensive or supporting role, not offensive, Sniper going point..Plz. They should either hold a defensive position from being rushed or support an assault team. Secondly, Sniping is an ART so if your not up to the task, don't bother. A crackshot sniper can hold an army at bay single-handedly, but on the other hand a crap sniper not only is a risk to himself but to his entire team! Has anyone been Back-doored before??? Also Defensive Snipers should always have at least 1 Backup for CQC. As for AWP Vs Scout, Both are deadly depending on how good a sniper u r, ur technique and your opposition. Long Live CS!!! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	[CA]Banzai 16:21 12/3/2002	Hmmmmm... Very very intresting!!!! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	HA\|[MOC]Steveman 18:23 12/3/2002	It is good. Read it during school. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Six Eyed Smily 18:24 12/3/2002	hud_centerid 1. this command makes your teammates and enemies ID (name and status: friend or enemy) appear in the center of the screen. that way when you roll around that hallway corner, crouch, and read ENEMY: iRn00b written in red/blue, you can blast without hesitation. originally written by beaver i strongly reccomend this, i have been called a cheat sooo many times for it in the past but it is usefull. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Elem 18:27 12/3/2002	The scout is s*. People who use it in preference to the awp, because they think it is better, are insane. On the other hand people who use it over the awp, because they think it is a "true" gun, are newbies AND insane. AWP v Scout. Its a no brainer, the awp obviously. What you scout promoters (insane people) are forgetting is that scout vs any other gun apart from awp is utterly wk. End of story. Thankyou Elem [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	[5thElement] Pure Ev 19:43 12/3/2002	I have had it drilled into my brain by a friend that sniping is a gay past-time on CS. I have on a couple of occasion tired it myself without any success. I hate snipers in general, they kill me because I'm a 56k'er. I tried sniping (with bots) after I read this, and to my suprise, it worked, and i got an amazing score against my bots. i havent tried it only though yet!!!! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	pablo 00:18 13/3/2002	ghetto_yo, i wasnt trying to insult anyone, but i do think the awp should not be in cs. cs is a game where nearly every gun takes 5 shots to down you at at the chest. i do not think there should be one gun that can kill you if it hits anywhere close to the center of your body. i understand the awp is more powerful than the scout, but what you DONT understand is that the awp is only desirable because of its power. Dictionary.com defines a sniper as "one who shoots at other people from a concealed place." the last time you saw three terrorists on militia shooting cts as they came out of the tunnel, were you thinking that the ts were depending on their concealment?? Hells no! the only reason they stay alive is because they kill the cts in one shot. those were not snipers. they were cannons, artillery. im sorry, but the sound of that gun going off does not make me think of the silent, lone sniper that is in so many movies. so f*** off [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Zaphod 01:30 13/3/2002	I think it's a damn good article, except for sayig the scout is bad...i think it's a pretty damn good gun. Yes, the awp Is actually "better", but the best snipers can kick ass with a scout. Also, the two semi auto rifles aren't that bad...they're good if you know how to use them. And when an enemy gets up close, there's no contest...with the awp you cant really hit a thing without the scope, and it's too slow. All in all, it's a good article. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	* 02:36 13/3/2002	I don't think anyone mentioned reloading with AWM. Everyone I play with uses "hud_fastswitch 1" and switches to 2ndary after each shot, then back to AWM. It's faster than reloading regularly..I think. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	rude 04:25 13/3/2002	finally, somone that realises that gsg and sig sniper do have there uses like every gun in cs ;p I find gsg very powerful weapon; 2-3 shots anywhere and dead and headshots arent that hard to get if ur aim is good enuff :> I think alot of people try it once and throw it away never to b touched again - give it time though and u can rock with it - even today i managed to take out all 5 cts on inferno twice with it, being the last man alive. Oh and Scout rocks too :> Really satisfying to kill a whole loada enemies that didnt hear where u were unlike the aw/m which also rocks - but if i wanted stealth rather than stopping power + money to spend, i would opt for scout. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	chronic 05:01 13/3/2002	Good read but mostly all common sense .... Oh ya and by the way !! AWPS ARE LIKE TAMPONS, EVERY p***Y NEEDS ONE !!!! So be a man and use the scout peeps !!!! HAPPY FRAGGING [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Naught 07:25 13/3/2002	And if the sniper sees you remember that a semi average players average fire response time is 3.5 seconds. That means it takes them 2 seconds to zoom in on you and then just over a second later if their aim is elite for you to die. ...LoL? How about 1 second [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Jesus 14:22 13/3/2002	f*** it [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	[$terf]LlaMa-XS 15:12 13/3/2002	Always remember to slag off the enemy after every kill. Annoying them makes them play worse OMFG YOU SUCK, You really suck, your tactics are written for open games/public games, none of them will work in wars. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	[$terf]LlaMa-XS 15:13 13/3/2002	Better luck next time [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	zHunter 16:31 13/3/2002	It amazes me the number of "l33t" snipers that claim that the scout is better than the AWP. I play in the VGA UK national tournaments, and good players use the AWP over the scout simply because it is better. To judge the weapons fairly u have to assume both users are of equal skill level, and then the AWP wins. A scout sniper cannot hit in the head every time, he is much more likely to be able to hit in the chest, so the AWP beats the scout hands down, and this is backed up by the fact that the scout is very rarely used in competition play. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	The_Dark_Raven 23:16 13/3/2002	Hey. Thx for the compliments (and criticism) now to answer a few questions. you havent seen me online because i'm a LAN player.. ( www.planet-lan.co.uk ) and that also explains why i dont notice the auto snipers stutter as you call it as i play with a ping of about 15. About the scout... I'm sorry, but no. Saying that a good scouter against an AWM'er will allways win is absloute trash. Once your are intot that zoom there is no difference between the guns apart from the zoom rate. You take your shot and you hit the target. Now with the AWM doesnt matter if you hit the head. They are dead. So you win, Nuff Said. In say the Clanbase games with clans such as NIP and Nordic Division ...do they use scouts.. I think Not! On a side note if anyone from any Lan centres wishes to Play F3eR the Planet Lan 8 man team drop Evilben a line at www.planet-lan.co.uk Thx. Dark-Raven [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Zaphod 23:27 13/3/2002	Anyone who's being a prick to this guy for his article should just stfu...you don't need to be an ass to the guy . I'f you've got better suggestions then YOU make the article. Or you can grow the f*** up..whatever suits you best. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	The_Dark_Raven 23:54 13/3/2002	Cheers... very subtle mate :P . [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Tunny 10:06 14/3/2002	Very good article .... I've been looking out for something like this for a while.. Anyone can plant themselves down with an awp n frag but to be truely good at it theres a lot to learn .... I've got a few more things to praccy now As for the scout, obviously the awp owns it .... but under certain circumstances on publics the scout is a good purchase. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	fiasco 12:49 14/3/2002	Firstly, i thank you for your time and effort, some things i agree with others i dont, but hey if you could write somethng all of us agreed with, then i would probably be following you around as you healed the sick. As with any advice i took the bits that i thought could help me and left the rest. thnx [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Blog 14:03 14/3/2002	further back i posted that scout's unzoomed movement speed is equal to the pistol. This is why experienced scouters will beat awps. When scout fires, scouter moves too quickly for awp to aim at. An awper who misses will still be slow. Good awpers will still win often enough, but scout will get the majority of kills. Against non-scouters i prefer the awp, because of 1 shot kill... Also, when you hit with awp (see blood) but they don't die, switch to pistol, Coz they're only on 20 health! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]

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